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So I'm thinking about using RAID to backup my HDD - I have none of this stuff yet it's my £2000 budget build plan.

My questions - Would my chosen parts be good for a RAID backup?
Would my MOBO support RAID?
What do I need?

My full build plan is -

CPU - Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K Unlocked Core i7 Quad-Core Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1155) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i7-2600K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NOQ/ref=pd_ybh_4?pf_rd_p=138755991&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_t=1501&pf_rd_i=ybh&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0KV5JM3W4PFJMGZ1CTCB - £239.30

GPU - Asus AMD Radeon HD 7970 Graphics Card (3GB, GDDR5, HDMI, DVI-I, PCI-Express 3.0) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Radeon-Graphics-GDDR5-PCI-Express/dp/B006TQS3QM/ref=pd_ybh_3?pf_rd_p=138755991&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_t=1501&pf_rd_i=ybh&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0KV5JM3W4PFJMGZ1CTCB - £459.99

RAM – Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module Kit - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9-1600MHz-Vengeance-Memory/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326905988&sr=8-1- £40
CPU COOLER - Thermalright - CPU Heatsink Kit - 2x 140mm PWM Fan - Silver Arrow - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermalright-Heatsink-140mm-Silver-Arrow/dp/B003XRAKLQ/ref=pd_ybh_8?pf_rd_p=138755991&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_t=1501&pf_rd_i=ybh&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0KV5JM3W4PFJMGZ1CTCB - £67.73

MOBO - ASRock Z68 Professional Gen.3 Motherboard (Socket 1155, DDR3, Micro ATX, ASRock Instant Boot) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-Z68-Professional-Motherboard-Instant/dp/B005ARF5OY/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326908273&sr=1-4 £225.41

HDD - Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM Internal Hard Disk Drive - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-WD1002FAEX-Caviar-Internal/dp/B0036Q7MV0/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326832275&sr=1-2 - £115.00 X2 FOR RAID = £230

SSD - Crucial CT128M4SSD2 128GB M4 SSD - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT128M4SSD2-128GB-M4-SSD/dp/B004W2JKZI/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326908947&sr=1-1 - £139.98

CASE - COOLER MASTER RC-932-KKN5-GP HAF 932 Advanced MicroATX/ATX/E-ATX Full Tower Case (Black) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/COOLER-MASTER-RC-932-KKN5-GP-Advanced-MicroATX/dp/B004USK1VQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326906637&sr=1-1 £119.95

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium, Full Version (PC DVD), 1 User - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Windows-Home-Premium-Version/dp/B002DUCMT2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1326837582&sr=8-3 - £109.95

Ethernet Cable - Cat5e RJ45 Ethernet LAN Network Cable UTP Lead 20M http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cat5e-RJ45-Ethernet-Network-Cable/dp/B000IAJHQ0/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326837286&sr=1-1 - £1.40

PSU – Cooler Master RS650-ACAAE3-UK GX-Series 650W 80 Plus Power Supply Unit - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RS650-ACAAE3-UK-Power-Supply/dp/B0035QAKOM/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326912116&sr=1-4 £68.90

MONITOR - Samsung S24A300H 23.6 inch Widescreen LED Monitor (MEGA DCR, 1920 x 1080 Full HD, 2ms, HDMI/VGA) - Gloss Black http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-S24A300H-23-6-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B0060KBY86/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t - £129.99

DISC DRIVE - LiteOn IHAS224-19 Lite-On 24x DVD-RW LightScribe SATA - http://www.amazon.co.uk/LiteOn-IHAS224-19-Lite--DVD-RW-LightScribe/dp/B002CHRAS4/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326911772&sr=1-6 - £15.95

THERMAL PASTE - Arctic Silver 5 (AS5) Paste and Articlean Cleaner - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Silver-Paste-Articlean-Cleaner/dp/B003VRBPAI/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326910595&sr=1-3 £4.50

KEYBOARD - Qpad MK-80 Pro Gaming Backlit Mechanical Keyboard - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Qpad-Gaming-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B005DTFDQE/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1326915996&sr=1-6 - £107.28
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RAID is not a good backup solution.

That motherboard will support raid. HOWEVER: RAID1 is not a backup service. It's for hard drive redundancy, designed to ensure that if a primary hard drive in a system malfunctions/stops working, that the machine will continue to be usable and not result in down-time of the machine. RAID does absolutely nothing to ensure data integrity, which is what you want for a backup of your data.

The reason I mention this is that if you have a situation where, for whatever reason, data becomes corrupted on your hard drive, the raid controller will simply just mirror that corrupted data to the other drive, and now you'll have two drives with corrupted data, and nothing to do about it.

Grab raid for performance increases, but do not rely on it as a backup method. I would still do manual backups to a single hard drive, preferably an external drive, if you care about your data being backed up.
    
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I run RAID 0+1 and back that up on an external drive. Yes RAID it's self is a poor idea for backup. Good for redundancy but not a fail safe imo.

I use 4 drives 1tb each with 2 backing up the first 2. That is just for a fail safe. Then to secure the actual data long term I use the external 2tb drive.

Overclocking is a great way to corrupt a RAID array, trust me!
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Hi , well the idea of RAID is to use the potential of multiple hard drives to share the data between them and speed a bit up (RAID 0) (but if 1 drive fails , ALL the data is lost) or to write the data on both drives simultaneously as if 1 drive fails , the data is still on the other drive (RAID 1) and that's you want , right ? SO:

-you need at least 2 Hard Drives (but you can add more) (they have to be the same capacity , so 1TB here)
-a mobo that supports it (nowadays all mobos that are $100+ have it , so no prob with the Z68 Fatality)
-Thats's it wink.gif

I won't write a guide here (as i'm lazy biggrin.gif) but here are some links , just for you tongue.gif :
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYBtmVMtH1g
-http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=830
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7vZ3ZWkNVA
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKDCmOBqNBY (software guide)

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Hi , well the idea of RAID is to use the potential of multiple hard drives to share the data between them and speed a bit up (RAID 0) (but if 1 drive fails , ALL the data is lost) or to write the data on both drives simultaneously as if 1 drive fails , the data is still on the other drive (RAID 1) and that's you want , right ? SO:
-you need at least 2 Hard Drives (but you can add more) (they have to be the same capacity , so 1TB here)
-a mobo that supports it (nowadays all mobos that are $100+ have it , so no prob with the Z68 Fatality)
-Thats's it wink.gif
I won't write a guide here (as i'm lazy biggrin.gif) but here are some links , just for you tongue.gif :
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYBtmVMtH1g
-http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=830
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7vZ3ZWkNVA
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKDCmOBqNBY (software guide)
Hope it helps thumb.gif

What he said!!!

Seriously people, don't chance your data on multiple solid or mechanical drives, as they will fail!!!
Backing up data to single drives, not constantly connected to the system AND using blu-rays makes so much more sense!
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