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I've run Libre without either but that takes out Base though...so I guess if you need Base then you need them. I don't get why it wouldn't let you configure it to stop looking because I did that when it was giving me the same problems.
     
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I'm sure if you just keep clicking the X it goes away after about a minute or so... did this to me in Windows XP.
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I don't know. Although according to my Yahooing (does anyone else still use that?) people have reported LibreOffice not working on JDK and only working on JRE. If I remember correctly when I had SUSE I just went to Java's site, downloaded it and installed it (JRE that is).

OpenOffice might have been a bit more fussy, but then you're talking about two Oracle products. But I'm pretty sure LibreOffice will with OpenJDK just fine.

I've not got round to re-installing Java nor LibreOffice on Arch since installing my SSD, but I'm sure I was running that previously
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OpenOffice might have been a bit more fussy, but then you're talking about two Oracle products. But I'm pretty sure LibreOffice will with OpenJDK just fine.
I've not got round to re-installing Java nor LibreOffice on Arch since installing my SSD, but I'm sure I was running that previously


Yeah libreoffice will work with openjdk 6 or 7, but I've noticed it will still run better with oracle's JRE (you don't really need oracle's java JDK unless the program says it requires it, Oracle's java jdk is if you want to develop java programs.)

 

I personally use Oracle's jre/jdk, as it runs some of the programs i do use better than openjdk can. 

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Yeah libreoffice will work with openjdk 6 or 7, but I've noticed it will still run better with oracle's JRE
"Better" in which way? Faster? More stable?
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(you don't really need oracle's java JDK unless the program says it requires it, Oracle's java jdk is if you want to develop java programs.)
Nobody mentioned Oracle JDK though (or did I miss that post?)
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I personally use Oracle's jre/jdk, as it runs some of the programs i do use better than openjdk can. 
I've heard similar things about other Java apps, eg that Minecraft can be buggy on OpenJDK, but I honestly never had a problem with Minecraft on O'JDK (not that I'm taking anything away from those who had experienced problems).

From what I recall, the only time I was pushed into Oracles Java suite was when developing for Android (which seems really odd when looking back now) and obviously when running Oracle Apps (eg their financial and payroll suite).

I know OpenJDK is a long way from perfect, but I really cannot stand Oracle so I'd rather make do (where I can) with FOSS than sign up with them - idealistically speaking obviously laugher.gif
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"Better" in which way? Faster? More stable?
Nobody mentioned Oracle JDK though (or did I miss that post?)
I've heard similar things about other Java apps, eg that Minecraft can be buggy on OpenJDK, but I honestly never had a problem with Minecraft on O'JDK (not that I'm taking anything away from those who had experienced problems).
From what I recall, the only time I was pushed into Oracles Java suite was when developing for Android (which seems really odd when looking back now) and obviously when running Oracle Apps (eg their financial and payroll suite).
I know OpenJDK is a long way from perfect, but I really cannot stand Oracle so I'd rather make do (where I can) with FOSS than sign up with them - idealistically speaking obviously laugher.gif


both actually. When you first install ubuntu, it comes with libre office and openjdk, when I open libre, the splash screen hangs around for a good 30 to 40 seconds before displaying the writer, and when i run spell check, it spaces out on me, making it frustrating slow to run it. Same with autosaves it does, it "hangs" for a second or two, before it allows me to resume normal operations. Did this with Open Office as well, so for a time, I had actually stopped using open/libre cause i just assumed those problems were related to it, and not openjdk.

 

Last year, i started using Zend studio for my web development, and that require Oracel's JRE/JDK, and it was around that time, I decided to give libre another chance as well, cause I needed more fully featured office suite that abiword and the other limited choices didn't offer. That is when I noticed it actually worked faster and the spell checker wouldn't spaz out on me, and the autosave wouldn't "hang" the program.

 

I'm not sure if this is everyones experience with openjdk, as i'd assume it isn't.

 

To me its worth the "agreement" that they have you agree to now to use their JRE/JDK, cause its simply well worth using zend studio for it :). the side benefit is to run libre office with no (well little) problems.

 

as for my mention of oracles jdk, is that you don't need, when you go to download the packags from oracle, they are both on the download page, and it might be confusing which one you actual will need if you decide to go with them, than openjdk.

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both actually. When you first install ubuntu, it comes with libre office and openjdk, when I open libre, the splash screen hangs around for a good 30 to 40 seconds before displaying the writer, and when i run spell check, it spaces out on me, making it frustrating slow to run it. Same with autosaves it does, it "hangs" for a second or two, before it allows me to resume normal operations. Did this with Open Office as well, so for a time, I had actually stopped using open/libre cause i just assumed those problems were related to it, and not openjdk.

Last year, i started using Zend studio for my web development, and that require Oracel's JRE/JDK, and it was around that time, I decided to give libre another chance as well, cause I needed more fully featured office suite that abiword and the other limited choices didn't offer. That is when I noticed it actually worked faster and the spell checker wouldn't spaz out on me, and the autosave wouldn't "hang" the program.

I'm not sure if this is everyones experience with openjdk, as i'd assume it isn't.

To me its worth the "agreement" that they have you agree to now to use their JRE/JDK, cause its simply well worth using zend studio for it smile.gif. the side benefit is to run libre office with no (well little) problems.

Ahh interesting. Thanks for the explanation. smile.gif
I'm very tempted to do a side by side comparison comparison to see just how different LibreOffice performs - though I'm not sure how useful such an experiment would be.
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as for my mention of oracles jdk, is that you don't need, when you go to download the packags from oracle, they are both on the download page, and it might be confusing which one you actual will need if you decide to go with them, than openjdk.
Ahhh that makes sense then. biggrin.gif
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