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7/16/12 at 1:04am
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How low are we talking? I know Push outperforms Pull at ~1000RPM with GTs (MLL).
I wouldn't say that's outperforming since the temps are withing 1C of each other (if I read the graphs right, just woke up). I'd say that's well within the margin of error.
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7/16/12 at 1:33am
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How low are we talking? I know Push outperforms Pull at ~1000RPM with GTs (MLL).
I wouldn't say that's outperforming since the temps are withing 1C of each other (if I read the graphs right, just woke up). I'd say that's well within the margin of error.

Martin's margin of error should be well below 1*C.

 

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I’m looking to log temps for about an hour after stability is reached to average out the ambient fluctuations.

 

Not only that, but push consistently beats pull in his testing. Even when the difference is less than 0.5*C.

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7/16/12 at 1:58am
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Martin's margin of error should be well below 1*C.
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I’m looking to log temps for about an hour after stability is reached to average out the ambient fluctuations.

Not only that, but push consistently beats pull in his testing. Even when the difference is less than 0.5*C.
No, his error shouldn't be well below since there are way more variables than just his temp probes.
And yeah, push does consistently beat pull in his testing, but the lower you go on rpm the smaller the gap becomes. And you have to think about the loop in question too instead of just showing numbers from Martin's testing. On a single rad the difference could be 1C, but how about if you have a 120.3 rad, or multiple rads of different sizes. And really, if you can choose between functionality and that 1C lower temps, which will you take? Push is probably optimal temp wise, but it's not all that matters. Can't remember whether push and pull had a noticeable difference in noise or not, I remember reading somewhere that pull is quieter but don't quote me on that one.

tl;dr On low rpm, it doesn't matter whether you push or pull. (I consider "low" to be sub-1000 rpm, 1200 max.)
ps. lets not fight about this in fr0st's log.
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7/16/12 at 1:59am
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Eh, it doesn't really matter. The front rad will be push and the bottom will be pull. The top rad is push but won't have many fans on it.

I missed the pump delivery (by about 10 mins) so I will pick it up tomorrow, also the radiator should be here any day now.

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7/16/12 at 2:02am
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Originally Posted by fr0st. View Post

Eh, it doesn't really matter. The front rad will be push and the bottom will be pull. The top rad is push but won't have many fans on it.
I missed the pump delivery (by about 10 mins) so I will pick it up tomorrow, also the radiator should be here any day now.
Final legs of the project smile.gif
= update tomorrow? applaud.gif
I haven't even seen the window yet biggrin.gif
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7/16/12 at 2:08am
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Here we go! No window because my room's a mess and would rather save that for final shoot.


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Packages!

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From www.http://thekoolroom.com.au/, one of my favourite stores.

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Pump mount, pretty nifty.

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This is the stuff from www.PCCaseGear.com, my go-to for everything.

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Radiator had me confused, I thought it was an RS because of the
packaging.

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Nope! Crossflow series! Still, was about 5mm too long so I had to buy
a normal one rolleyes.gif

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Without the GPU.

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Oh my.

Looks good, don't you think? tongue.gif

BTW: I'm not sponsored by PCCG or TKR, I just like them and think they need promotion biggrin.gif
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7/16/12 at 12:46pm
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Just started rendering some gameplay for my channel (DayZ, woohoo!) and this 2600k is definitely making a difference. I was doing this on my old 4.3GHz 920 and this is smoking it at stock speeds.

Yay!

Video's here, if anyone's interested. It's still processing so give it an hour or two from this post.
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7/18/12 at 8:26am
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I uploaded special pictures for you lot and no one said anything.

What did I do ;-;

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7/18/12 at 8:32am
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I uploaded special pictures for you lot and no one said anything.
What did I do ;-;
I'm sorry sad-smiley-002.gif
I'm sorry too sad-smiley-002.gif I swear I commented, must have been OCN's fault sozo.gif
O yeah, the rig looks great. Shame about the rad though, you'll have to build a WC'd server or something now tongue.gif
Doesn't look that crowded from that perspective either.
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