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How far would I be able to go with overclocking the Q6600 on my ASRock P5B-DE board?
I know it depends on whether you have a good chip or not, but would it be possible with a good chip to hit 3.6GHz or would I need a better board with some heatsinks/heatpipes to go that high?
With 3.0GHz I'm still maintaining the stock CPU voltage of 1.3250. DRAM, NB and VTT slightly higher. CPU around 32ish in idle and 50ish while gaming.
I guess I would need a better cooler too. But before I upgrade my RAM and cooler I need to know if this board would handle it. If not it would be a waste.

I don't why it couldn't hit 3.6Ghz with more cooling on FETS, NB and SB, oh and CPU. But the ASROCK mobo might have a FSB Wall on it. Plus it's up to your chip there. So what ever is cheapest is what i would do. smile.gif
 
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I kind of started to get an adrenaline kick out of overclocking... smile.gif

I'm thinking to replace my DDR2-667 memory with an identical DDR2-800 as the one I currently have installed (so something with (5-5-5-18 @ 400 Mhz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 Mhz) (3-3-3-9 @ 200 Mhz)).

This would allow me to go for 3.2, 3.4 and eventually 3.6. However before I do this I'm wondering something:

Would my 4 GB memory be a bottleneck for gaming? For example the only game I currently play is The Old Republic, a new game. It demands pretty much from the hardware. That's why I'm wondering if I would really notice the difference if I would OC it up from 3.0 to 3.4 or 3.6.

I started OCing my Q6600 because it was a huge bottleneck for my GTX 560. I wouldn't want to end up spending money only to get bottlenecked by my 4 GB memory.

Is 4 GB generally too little these days for gaming? I would upgrade to 6 or 8 but not right now... DDR2 is kinda really expensive (compared to DDR3) so I would just wait a little longer...

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4GB should be okay, granted before this year is over i see 6 or even 8GB being the norm....it's the way Technology works lol
 
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Hmm... I'm wondering if I can really push much more out of this chip.

I just did some stress testing in Prime and noticed my system was unstable, had volts back at stock 1.3250. Also unstable with 3 ticks more.

Now I'm back at 1.400 and it seems pretty stable after around 45 min. testing.

I was reading that VID 1.3250 is really on the high side and that most Q6600's with that VID won't really go all that high. They usually need about 1.400 to 1.470 to be stable at 3.2 GHz. There are some who managed to get it to 3.6 GHz on a 1.3250 VID with Vcore at 1.5, but still...

If there's a big chance there won't be much gain anyway I don't really see a point upgrading... new set of 4GB RAM is pretty costly at 55 euros, not to mention that all the extra volt will cause higher temps and that might be a problem during summer when the room's hot again, so I would need a better fan too. And besides all that the mobo really isn't that much of an OC board... it has the options and everything, but no heatsinks/pipes to really push it to the limit.

I guess I'll just keep it at 1.4v for now @ 3.0 GHz. I'm happy with the big performance gain this gave me, and the temps at max. 60 degrees under full load are perfectly fine for the moment. Of course I'll keep my eye on them during the summer cause they are bound to get higher.

Edit: How come I never experienced any crashes if the system was unstable? I was playing a lot since OCing and setting it back to stock/VID of 1.3250v, yet never had any crashes? And now Prime was crashing and showing error reports...

What exactly happens if an error occurs while gaming? Would the entire PC reboot/shutdown or would one of the cores just shutdown and slow down your gaming?

Cause if only Prime is giving me error reports I might as well keep 1.3250v, no?
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Hmm... I'm wondering if I can really push much more out of this chip.
I just did some stress testing in Prime and noticed my system was unstable, had volts back at stock 1.3250. Also unstable with 3 ticks more.
Now I'm back at 1.400 and it seems pretty stable after around 45 min. testing.
I was reading that VID 1.3250 is really on the high side and that most Q6600's with that VID won't really go all that high. They usually need about 1.400 to 1.470 to be stable at 3.2 GHz. There are some who managed to get it to 3.6 GHz on a 1.3250 VID with Vcore at 1.5, but still...
If there's a big chance there won't be much gain anyway I don't really see a point upgrading... new set of 4GB RAM is pretty costly at 55 euros, not to mention that all the extra volt will cause higher temps and that might be a problem during summer when the room's hot again, so I would need a better fan too. And besides all that the mobo really isn't that much of an OC board... it has the options and everything, but no heatsinks/pipes to really push it to the limit.
I guess I'll just keep it at 1.4v for now @ 3.0 GHz. I'm happy with the big performance gain this gave me, and the temps at max. 60 degrees under full load are perfectly fine for the moment. Of course I'll keep my eye on them during the summer cause they are bound to get higher.
Edit: How come I never experienced any crashes if the system was unstable? I was playing a lot since OCing and setting it back to stock/VID of 1.3250v, yet never had any crashes? And now Prime was crashing and showing error reports...
What exactly happens if an error occurs while gaming? Would the entire PC reboot/shutdown or would one of the cores just shutdown and slow down your gaming?
Cause if only Prime is giving me error reports I might as well keep 1.3250v, no?

Gaming, PRIME and lets say Folding, they all stress the Computer differently. Prime is the OC way to Make sure it's stable. So if you wanna risk it during a game, its on you. I don't suggest it though. and the game would freeze or BSOD.

you can put the Vcore to stock if you only game yes, but is their a good chance it will crash at some point..Yes.

So i would just drop the Vcore to the lowest PRIME stable setting and be happy smile.gif

Oh and i am also cursed with the 1.325V Q6600...almost makes me cry lol
 
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That's unfortunate for us... but luckily the Q6600 itself is always a good chip and we're able to safely go all the way up from 2.4 to 3.0 which is a pretty big (25%!) improvement.

We can't really complain. biggrin.gif

As I said I kept it at 1.4v for now. The temps are good enough as it is with 56 as max even though I've been playing for an hour in a really laggy situation that pushed my CPU to the limit. It's better to be safe when it comes to having it stable than getting an error sooner or later. smile.gif
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My 1.225vid Q6600 has been golden, it has been running at 3.6ghz nearly 24/7 since I bought it in Nov 07.

Currently with my P45 UD3R I only need 1.168v for 3ghz at 9x334 and 1.31v for 3.6ghz at 9x400.
Those settings will let me run prime95 for days, along with 30+ IBT passes at maximum.
To be honest I haven't actually tried to go any lower with voltages, or much higher with clocks either... I did run 9x425 for a few benches on my old ip35 pro

I can't recall what I needed for voltage with the Abit p35 Pro and Gigabyte P35 DS3L boards I also used with this Q6600.
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That's unfortunate for us... but luckily the Q6600 itself is always a good chip and we're able to safely go all the way up from 2.4 to 3.0 which is a pretty big (25%!) improvement.
We can't really complain. biggrin.gif
As I said I kept it at 1.4v for now. The temps are good enough as it is with 56 as max even though I've been playing for an hour in a really laggy situation that pushed my CPU to the limit. It's better to be safe when it comes to having it stable than getting an error sooner or later. smile.gif

Yes true, just wish we were luckier....
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My 1.225vid Q6600 has been golden, it has been running at 3.6ghz nearly 24/7 since I bought it in Nov 07.
Currently with my P45 UD3R I only need 1.168v for 3ghz at 9x334 and 1.31v for 3.6ghz at 9x400.
Those settings will let me run prime95 for days, along with 30+ IBT passes at maximum.
To be honest I haven't actually tried to go any lower with voltages, or much higher with clocks either... I did run 9x425 for a few benches on my old ip35 pro
I can't recall what I needed for voltage with the Abit p35 Pro and Gigabyte P35 DS3L boards I also used with this Q6600.


Thanks for rubbing it in.. frown.gif I need 1.488V for a 3.6GHz OC. I would LOVE that chip, i could probably hit my "Dream" goal of 4Ghz+ with yours smile.gif One more reason i don't understand life...i'm a great guy and work hard, but i always get the shaft.....

But....would you wanna trade since your happy with 3.6? Mine has NEVER went above 70C unless it was due to IBT lol Let me know wink.gif
 
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Would I be able to get some performance boost from overclocking my memory?

Never really did that so before I start learning how to do it I'd best know for sure if it will give me a boost or not.
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Would I be able to get some performance boost from overclocking my memory?
Never really did that so before I start learning how to do it I'd best know for sure if it will give me a boost or not.

Only for Benchmarking reasons...unless you can go from 800 to 1366, then yes, but it is really not worth it cost wise.
 
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