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I don't think most of OCN understands the concepts behind why consoles are so popular with both developers and consumers. Fixed hardware, and simple to use, plain and simple. PCs will never replace consoles, PCs will never have fixed hardware. Both PCs and Consoles have their place. Console game sales break their own records year after year, yet people keep saying they're going away.
Proof please.

You see part of it, but are missing more.



Look at anything apple is doing. They are going to be doing Xbox 360 level graphics soon. Way better in the next few years. The hardware falls somewhere between a console and a PC, where its a moving, but steady target.

Android already can use a game controller.... ipad and android can already be hooked to larger displays.


the future is crazy.
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The crazy thing is that most people don't realize that their PC can be there all-in-one media system.
It can but hooking up their PC to their TV involves those two things being in the same room, and then there's the issue of sound setup - not everyone has HDMI readily available on both their desktops and TV's. Dragging my 30kg desktop downstairs to the TV room is definitely not an option for me.

But then that's why I have my laptop smile.gif which has served VERY well as an all-in-one entertainment system.
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Last Gen consoles are like 4th last gen GPU's lol.
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so...I just somehow got everything lost when I was typing a huge post.

but I took a print screen...so I"ll retype that part and then go do something else to relieve this sudden headache I have.

[paraphrasing] there are two major issues that will keep set top boxes from usurping the console crown[/paraphrasing]

The first is that the industry is always improving. The analog of "wii-level" graphics might become more ubiquitous, and improve, but there will always be a part of the game industry which is focused on more serious content for the best machinery - and consoles try to keep up with that. They're highly specialized to have custom hardware, JUST to keep up with what PCs will be able to generate (albeit toned down, 5 year old systems can still run current PC released when ported over). The developers of all that stuff too, have a **** ton of inertia. They're not just going to switch gears all at once and start producing farmville 2 for the wiibox 360 overnight.

The other...wait for it...more important issue...it's coming...is...delay...the tv industry. the adoption of user-controllable and accessible content online and the streamlining of media formats to one central node in the house has been possible for at least 15 years. But it hasn't had support from the tv industry (especially the networks...but ESPECIALLY the cable providers), and so it hasn't happened. I think it's really the one last thing standing in the way of the complete cloud integration of information in our daily lives. And it sucks (or is awesome if you're paranoid)...but the average cable provider makes more money charging two separate fees for ISP and cable. Or has such a hegemony on advertising, as to make it cost prohibitive to try to implement something like that. Picture your cable provider as one of a thousand or so little fiefdoms, which has a monopoly on local advertisers, and charges a commission to channels coming in much larger than anything they could get for access fees on an open-ended digital access. Time Warner stood in the way of stuff like apple TV not because it was a competing company, but because it would cut into its Cable Provider profits (there are a couple really good rants somewhere online about this whole issue, specifically regarding TW/AOL. This has been a fight since the late 90s. I'll try to find them again...here's a radio program from 2010 that talks about stagnation in the improvement of our internet that is tangentially relevant and involves a lot of the same players http://onpoint.wbur.org/2010/03/22/the-bandwidth-crunch )

But, those aren't insurmountable difficulties. Look at the players you have to deal with. Nintendo will always probably try to do the niche market thing (they could always just go handheld and cut their footprint), but sony and microsoft are big with the whole "let's implement completely disrupting, industry-changing technology to make a profit" thing. Microsoft especially has a pretty good angle on it if they can streamline their OS to handle the full range of everything people would want with a set-top box/cloud. Sony...if they're like Nintendo...would only try to latch on to that if they a) had to to stay in the game or b) thought they could still push their first party software (which, remember, is all that they really make money off of - the consoles themselves are usually sold at a loss the first few years of any generation).

[troll]and if sopa passes...most of the cable companies would love to offer their digital goods...for a 500% premium on adapting to the new technology...since you won't be piping in the pirate bay to ma and pa middle america[/troll]

[edit] this is an example, but not the full discussion about the tv industry dragging their feet on this whole thing
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/cable-google-tv-revolution/
more reading
http://gizmodo.com/5830956/why-the-government-wont-protect-you-from-getting-screwed-by-your-cable-company
http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/tv-economics-101-why.html
http://web.mit.edu/uricchio/Public/pdfs/pdfs/flow%20edited.pdf
https://www.pcworld.com/article/243177/cbs_said_no_to_apple_tv_streaming_ceo_says.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2011/10/31/new-apple-tv-will-pit-cable-providers-vs-channels/
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As a PC gamer I'm always hoping for a console refresh since that means we can get some better looking ports. I just wished they refreshed every 5 years instead of dragging it out for so long. Lets hope the console giants pull off something crazy and can display games at higher than 1080p so it can push TV market into the 4k arena.

I wouldn't put it past Sony or MS to advertise that the next gen has 4k support. However it would have to be 1080p upscaled to 2160p.
 
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play MGS4 lately?

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If you think that's photorealistic, I bet you probably hook up your HD TV and still use standard 480p TV content and can't tell the difference.


THIS is photo realistic rendering. This video is 100% graphic rendering. Nothing in it is real.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWE18YjLA8U&list=FLVQrWlmbhJYUAa63Ad4dXCw&index=19&feature=plpp_video
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Last Gen consoles are like 4th last gen GPU's lol.

Considering that the Wii U "HD graphics" will be based off the Radeon 48xx series cores, The gap is gonna get even wider 6 years from now.
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Um, 2012 everyone, helloooo? You all forget yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
    
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ill believe its the end of the world when it happens, until then i won't believe it so lets please not put this 2012 doomsday into this ganja.. thumb.gif
    
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open your eyes! not a chance! once we get quantum computers they will still play on their ancient silicon consoles????
Edited by ivymaxwell - 1/20/12 at 12:55am
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