Originally Posted by hstanford1
Originally Posted by SGT. Peppers
The crazy thing is that most people don't realize that their PC can be there all-in-one media system.
Exactly. As it stands now, my girlfriend and I don't pay for cable or phone. I don't even have a cell phone.
We watch TV via Hulu, Netflix, XfinityTV. I make all calls and texts with GVoice. Gaming, no problem?
Why have more when less just works?
Because one has to realize the limitations of the all-in-one machinee.I wouldn't want a tiny ass screen to play any of my games on(assuming you are talking about an all-in-one on the go device and that we do not have holographic projections available yet) and certainly not at the kind of graphic fidelity that current mobile GPUs (Tegra 3 onwards) can handle.On the flip side , i wouldn't want to stick my face on a huge ass screen when im in a call with someone or send a text where i have to make an effort to hold it without letting it slip off.
There will be a place for dedicated devices in the market so long as they are competitively priced and software does not advance to become uni-compatible. (ala none of that will happen in the first paragraph)
Originally Posted by lordikon
Originally Posted by pengs
Yep. It's not about consoles dying, it's about the console model as we know it going away.
PC gaming will be the way of the future and it will be transparent to the every day Joe who just plays games. All he's going to know is that the box that he has hooked up to his TV plays games as seamlessly as his old 360 did.
I don't think the 'console' ideal will be going away, but I do believe that consoles will receive some legs and no longer be held down by proprietarism.
I don't think most of OCN understands the concepts behind why consoles are so popular with both developers and consumers. Fixed hardware, and simple to use, plain and simple. PCs will never replace consoles, PCs will never have fixed hardware. Both PCs and Consoles have their place. Console game sales break their own records year after year, yet people keep saying they're going away.
While sales may prove otherwise , i still think that they are conceptually flawed.There is no place in the technological world where hardware is REALLY fixed ; this is what consumers really want , against all logic , that a lump sum(exc. repairs and such) would satisfy ALL their needs , FOREVER.Don't believe me? Go to ANY gaming forum that discusses about next gen that has a console fanbase and you'll frequently see something like "Oh man , its only been like 8 years , i don't want to fork out another $600-700 for new hardware" "i really hope they don't come out fast because i just bought my PS3!" "Maybe the programmers(big FU to this guy because programmers are not magicians) have not yet found way to fully utilize console hardware.Anyway i don't really want it." "Im fine with this generation of graphics , why would i pay $700 for new graphics?" "backwards compatibility or bust"[Im paraphrasing or summing up posts from The Escapist btw]
Ofcourse , some of them are due to their own incompetence of not realizing that every gen brings in SO MUCH MORE than just graphic fidelity but you get my point.The consumer market is getting increasingly agitated by new hardware because they want something that ISN'T there.Eventually the market will become so segregated in consoles that in the long run , will not be profitable anymore because of impossible backwards compatibility(for obvious reasons).The PCs will oust consoles out of the gaming seat simply by playing the waiting game with emulation and backwards compatibility.
Edit: i'd like to think that this is why Onlive is getting an increasingly bigger consumer interest but i really have no evidence(that i can find) to back this up.
I guess this is also why they wanted to move back to dumb terminals , being inconsequential human beings asking for the impossible.
Originally Posted by R.D.BID
Originally Posted by Empr1ze
Maybe it'll be the last generation of consoles themselves, but I believe in the future, like around 2020~, the hardware would be implemented into the TV's and one would have to install the software into the TV and download whatever games they want to play, ultimately bringing Steam to the TV.
I think we're heading this way...
This will be the direction consoles as well as the personal PC take within the next 10-20 years.
The TV (or maybe some sort of screen) will take care of television, web, gaming as well as home office. Every thing you needed before in a home PC and gaming console will become cloud based. You won't store much, if any, info locally, and you won't really need any powerful hardware as it will all be cloud based.
Sony and Xbox will supply game sales and storage and you will play games off of their servers. Home office work will be done on Microsoft Office servers and saved and backed up there. You may rent server time/space or more personal storage space for other tasks from Amazon's server farm or maybe from your local cable/isp company.
Tablets will become more predominant and in the near future (10-15 more years) will be cheap and pleniful. You may be able to go to the store and pick up a 6 pack of tablets.
Everything is going to be interconnected via the internet, and I don't really see us using a PC like the ones we are sitting in front of right now.
I really hope it doesn't go full circle going back to dumb terminals.The whole point of the move towards home computing 40 years go was the complete lack of interdependency towards a central server and that hardware had came down in size and price that it was commercially viable to bring it to the average or more well off household. A move back to terminals would also(regrettably ) destroy the hardware market in a lose-lose situation towards the consumers and manufacturers.The consumer is bypassed in this model where Company A makes a dealing with Company B directly without consulting anyone (i guess you are screwed if they decide to increase the price of their service ; not everyone prefers better performance relative to price , hence the PC solution).It would also mean that the manufacturers would be in a "go big or go bust" situation because the amount of "consumers" has dramatically decreased to a point where signing a contract(this is the part i really fear for because legally binding documents always inhibit free market trade) with those service providers will guarantee a very long monopoly for said manufacturer.
In the end , nobody will benefit from this.Edited by chia233 - 1/20/12 at 4:07am