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they said that before about the ps3 and the 360.. cloud gaming will never replace mans need for pure hardware power..
    
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You're comparing a 1 year old $500 dollar tablet to a now 7 year old $250 console. When the next-gen consoles come out I fully expect:
  • 4 cores (8 threads), must faster than the previous consoles' CPUs in terms of instructions per second, possibly a wider bus.
  • At least 6GB of RAM, possibly even 8GB, much higher transfer rates.
  • GPUs that are magnitudes faster. Rather than a GPU with 256-512MB of RAM, and a GPU running at 500Mhz you'll see something like a custom AMD 6970 with 2GB of RAM in the consoles.
I would expect a mandatory 60fps 1080p minimum for all next-gen Xbox and Playstation games, and possibly even 1080p 3D with 60fps per eye. It may sound crazy for a 6970, but you have to consider that the GPUs are customized for the consoles to do certain things much faster than the equivalent PC hardware. That's what you get when you have GPUs made for a single hardware spec, and you don't need drivers whatsoever.
I'm also tired of people comparing iPad and mobile games to consoles. Sorry, but I won't be sitting down anytime soon to play Skyrim on my iPad, I'll be at a computer or 55" HDTV on a console relaxing with a dual analog controller. And even if you have your iPad running a game and hooked up to your HDTV, it's not a breeze to just connect a controller to it, and you won't get anywhere near the image quality as a brand new console would get you, because if you could consoles would be much smaller.

Unless the next gen consoles come out 3-5 years from now, just no. Look at past console generations. None have had such a huge gap in performance and RAM as what you're proposing here.

You're proposing a "console" with a 400+ watt power draw and an $8-900 price tag. No one on earth is going to buy, let alone produce, such a thing.

Also, you give the precise reasons why you don't need such crazy amounts of resources/processing power with a console - because it's a single hardware spec. It can be optimized like crazy, and would never need so much RAM/everything else. (PC games don't even use more than 2GB of RAM and you're suggesting consoles should have 8 - rofl)

You're also ignoring the fact that a new iPad is released something like every year - new consoles are not. So the same is going to be true 2-4 years after the next console generation - netbooks, etc. will have more GPU power.
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Oh , what do you know , someone posted a link to a site with people asking for the impossible : http://www.ps4playstation4.com/Would-you-pay-for-the-PS4

This only reiterates my point , the sure sheer ignorance and incompetence of the console community will kill it alone.
    
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post

farmville has over 100 million in less than a year.
Steam went from 3 million to 15 million to 40 million year over year.
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Oh , what do you know , someone posted a link to a site with people asking for the impossible : http://www.ps4playstation4.com/Would-you-pay-for-the-PS4
This only reiterates my point , the sure sheer ignorance and incompetence of the console community will kill it alone.

I posted that link last page... Sony is probing the market to see how affable to a 1000 dollar console they are.
 
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post

farmville has over 100 million in less than a year.
Steam went from 3 million to 15 million to 40 million year over year.

For the record I only game on PC.

Comparing Steam growth to consoles is crazy though. Every modern gaming console has a higher userbase then steam. And there is no way of knowing how much money farmville is generating however most reports say Zynga is spending way more then they are making at the moment.

Anyway I think we will have one more powerful set top box and then from there on out you will have devices like Onlives microconsole. Maybe there will be another generation after that but I don't see it.
    
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Opinions aren't news. Moved.
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it better be a all-in-one backwards compatible box
full 100% software and legacy peripheral support
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Unless the next gen consoles come out 3-5 years from now, just no. Look at past console generations. None have had such a huge gap in performance and RAM as what you're proposing here.
You're proposing a "console" with a 400+ watt power draw and an $8-900 price tag. No one on earth is going to buy, let alone produce, such a thing.
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You're also ignoring the fact that a new iPad is released something like every year - new consoles are not. So the same is going to be true 2-4 years after the next console generation - netbooks, etc. will have more GPU power.

That'd be true, except the amount of RAM increases exponentially, the jump from the 3.5MB total in the PS1 to the 36MB total in the PS2 was smaller than the jump fro 36MB to 512MB. 8GB would be a bit high but considering RAM is extremely cheap now I can see it being done.
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(PC games don't even use more than 2GB of RAM and you're suggesting consoles should have 8 - rofl)

Have you ever played GTA IV on PC?

On GTA IV I would usually use 3.5GB RAM (2.75GB of it is the game the rest is used for the OS and Steam)
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What a retard. Current consoles play video games at a pathetic 720P. The next console will do what, 1080P? I'd hardly call that the end of the road...
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