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from site that uve posted:
"Up to 1.3V is completely fine for an everyday overclock, whereas at some way between 1.3V and 1.4V you'll see the heat output increase quite notably even if you can push the CPU a little bit higher. We wouldn't recommend using more than 1.3V unless you have a powerful cooler, and using a vcore of 1.4V or more isn't advisable unless you're just planning a quick Kamikaze benchmark run. Professional overclockers might use a vcore of 1.5V or above even, but bear in mind that these guys and gals get CPUs by the tray load from sponsors! "

That post is old.
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Haha...I must be a professional overclocker! How old is that post? Current data suggests these chips can be run well above 1.4v quite safely.

Lol yeah, me too! Let's start a club!
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didnt check the date...
the point is that, I assume, the guy who posted the thread wants his cpu to work on higher freq where he dont pay attention to other things...
other guys suggest him to raise vcore more than 1.4 just to squeeze extra mhz from cpu...
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mine is working on 1.305v with 4.5ghz speed when needed...

If you have the proper cooling, you can crank up the voltage, and your frequency and not have to worry about anything.

The whole point of this website is to push our hardware to the limit, some people just want their stuff to last longer, he'll be fine as long as he keeps it under 80* and 1.45-1.5v. A 4.5Ghz overclock can be somewhat handled with a stock cooler (lol I've seen it somewhere xD ) and to be honest, you're adding information that isn't even true.. I run 4.7Ghz @ 1.33 / 1.38 LLC6 24/7, and when I wanna bench, I run 5.3Ghz @ 1.53/1.54. My chip hasn't blown up yet.
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I think you may be mistaken, IIRC C3 and C6 are sleep states and can cause instability whilst idling and 'jumping' to full load - Not sure why they cause it to BSOD, but they do. Have a little read at my Idle / Random BSOD thread in my sig.
I think you mean C1E and Speedstep (EIST), with both enabled and in combination with offset, the voltage drops along with multiplier which as you said helps the lifespan of the chip and helps overall temps. thumb.gif

Haha yeah, that's the one. My bad xD
 
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Maybe intel is slapping some real crap chips with the 2500k label to give people a reason to buy the new 2550k...redface.gif
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On a side note do you guys think its better to put VIRTUE on Quality or Performance considering my PC is basically just a gaming machine?
Thanks again all, the help is much appreciated smile.gif

With quality should come performance. I tried to pick all high quality parts and the bi-product was good stability and performance.
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Maybe intel is slapping some real crap chips with the 2500k label to give people a reason to buy the new 2550k...redface.gif
With quality should come performance. I tried to pick all high quality parts and the bi-product was good stability and performance.

so you're saying use quality?
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what everyone is suggesting is to use the best parts....
seriously guys, we r buyig within out range...
ET, ur mobo is great, just the problem i could see is maybe rare bios updates...
other than that when u meet ur mobo ull be on horse, ull be flying...

u dont have bad cpu, mobo or any other part in ur desktop, just u need to figure out how everything works....
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what everyone is suggesting is to use the best parts....
seriously guys, we r buyig within out range...
ET, ur mobo is great, just the problem i could see is maybe rare bios updates...
other than that when u meet ur mobo ull be on horse, ull be flying...
u dont have bad cpu, mobo or any other part in ur desktop, just u need to figure out how everything works....

ah i see. i already went over budget when i upgraded. i dont have much money to spend and pc gaming isn't my life, its just something i enjoy a lot!
i have tried all the BIOS's available for my board. I know i have a good CPU but it may just be a bad overclocker, it does happen... i haven't given up yet though smile.gif
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I'm with you. I get bsod in prime if I try 4.2 ghz. I'm planning on building chart vcore vs temperature
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I'm with you. I get bsod in prime if I try 4.2 ghz. I'm planning on building chart vcore vs temperature

at least you can run prime lol. i cant even get my mobo to post with 4.2Ghz. I have got into the operating system a couple times with 4.2Ghz but then it crashes pretty quickly before i can do anything. im just gonna play with the voltages a bit more once ive found out what the max safe voltages are and see what i can do cos it looks like ive already tried everything suggested and pretty much everything mentioned in guides. i have a feeling my cpu isn't getting enough power though because in HWmonitor the max ive seen it draw is what i mentioned in this thread before, about 86W i think. Since people are recommending i set the power limits at 250W i assume it should be drawing over 200W. Nobody seems to have mentioned anything about this though... my PSU is easily up to the task so maybe a problem with the motherboard limiting the power.
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Ta the first time to see that i5 wont go for more than 4.1...
And if u tried everything in bios, did u check mobo phisically, maye some jumper is set wrongly....

EDIT
did u read [=http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?s=345538c28d8c6c686e5ac309e6a0ea8d&t=689570&page=2][/]


And this
[=http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/index.php/t-2201053.html][/]



It seams that those boards have some problem
Thats why i dont buy anything else beside asus, and no matter how bad could it be atleast i know asus...
I fairnes i wanted same mobo u got when i was buying mine, but asus decided.
Im not fanboy, im just saying that i had a lot of trouble with other brands
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Ta the first time to see that i5 wont go for more than 4.1...
And if u tried everything in bios, did u check mobo phisically, maye some jumper is set wrongly....
EDIT
did u read [=http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?s=345538c28d8c6c686e5ac309e6a0ea8d&t=689570&page=2][/]
And this
[=http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/index.php/t-2201053.html][/]
It seams that those boards have some problem
Thats why i dont buy anything else beside asus, and no matter how bad could it be atleast i know asus...
I fairnes i wanted same mobo u got when i was buying mine, but asus decided.
Im not fanboy, im just saying that i had a lot of trouble with other brands

i have read through that first forum thread you posted a few days ago, the second link is just some kind of index, not sure what bit you're suggesting i read from there? my first gaming pc had an a-bit fatal1ty board which was cool, then ive always had asus boards up until now. asus boards are pretty solid from my experience, though ive always found the motherboard software to be a bit buggy and simplistic. i am starting to think though that when setting the power limits in the mobo its not doing anything and this is the problem. surely HWmonitor should be showing that my CPU is pulling more than 86W even when its at 4.1Ghz and under heavy load?

can people tell me what their CPU's are pulling in HWmonitor please??

i'll have a look at my board soon and see if anything looks wrong as suggested. thanks.

Edit: I have noticed there is a power connector on the board which you are supposed to plug the PSU into when you use Crossfire or SLI. Does anyone know if that add's anything to CPU power to? Seems a long shot but just thought I'd ask incase...
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sorry second post was about setting bios for ur mobo...
i was posting from phone
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