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Hmm, it used to say 2x15w RMS @ 8ohm. Weird.
I've never heard of ANYBODY having an issue with the TA2020 catching fire. I've heard of it having problems with EMI with certain devices though.
Yours may be 25w RMS at 4ohm, but you've got 8ohm speakers. wink.gif Makes no sense why you bought a 4ohm amp for 8ohm speakers.

i have read much of rather poor qc / build quality on the lepai ... i think pretty much all these t-amps are 4 or 8ohms .. 13.5Watts is plenty to drive the polks ..meh i don't know the DTA-100 might have been nice but it would have been more.. i'm happy with mine. I can discern no channel imbalance which i've seen some people griping about with the DTA-100.
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Hmm, it used to say 2x15w RMS @ 8ohm. Weird.
I've never heard of ANYBODY having an issue with the TA2020 catching fire. I've heard of it having problems with EMI with certain devices though.
Yours may be 25w RMS at 4ohm, but you've got 8ohm speakers. wink.gif Makes no sense why you bought a 4ohm amp for 8ohm speakers.

i have read much of rather poor qc / build quality on the lepai ... i think pretty much all these t-amps are 4 or 8ohms .. 13.5Watts is plenty to drive the polks ..meh i don't know the DTA-100 might have been nice but it would have been more.. i'm happy with mine. I can discern no channel imbalance which i've seen some people griping about with the DTA-100.

That's the DTA-100. The DTA-100a fixes that issue. It's a known issue with the pot that they used for the volume control. It's not channel imbalance, its that one channel doesn't turn on at the same point the other one does for some reason.

A simple RMA of a DTA-100a that does this fixes it. My first DTA-100a did that, and my RMA process with P-E was painless, and they did an advanced RMA free of charge.
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Please show me speakers that are better then the A2's for two hundred bucks.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1007/audioengine_a2.htm

Taken from another review here... http://www.stereophile.com/content/audioengine-2-powered-loudspeaker-page-2
"I have never been more impressed with or more stunned by a component I've reviewed for Stereophile than I was with the Audioengine 2. The level of sound quality produced by this uncolored, detailed, articulate, and dynamic speaker, in all situations, was beyond reproach, and its ratio of value to cost borders on the criminal. It extended my enjoyment of music into a new realm of portability that I hadn't before thought possible. I can't think of a single reason why every reader of this magazine should not go out right now and buy a pair of Audioengine 2s. I couldn't decide which finish I liked better, the white or the black. I bought a pair of each."

If you read that second link (this is from a guy who has been reviewing speakers for over 25 years) you will see him say that they were as neutral and true sounding as any sub $1000 set of speakers. That in and of itself is amazing.

I stand by that the Audioengine A2's are the absolute best for $200.
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Great input guys! really interesting. thanks!
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The Klipsch Promedia 2.1 is a great choice for $150, I would say they're the best you can do for that price. I've had them for over 7 years and still think they're great. I just bought a pair of M-Audio BX8 D2s and absolutely love them, if you need need bass (below 30Hz) for electronic music or hip hop get the Promedias, no 2.0 system is going to cut it and you won't be able to get a decent sub for less than $200.

By the way I think you're confused about the BX8s, they're $250 each so it's $500 for a stereo pair of them.

I think its really being sold for 250$ / pair. Its on amazon!
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I still think option C is better. Get the Audioengine A2's as no speakers close to that price range will touch them. They sound better then the Klipsch hands down. Sure the Klips will have a sub but just remember you get what you pay for. There is a reason the Klips include a sub around the same price as the A2's by themself.

I haven't really heard A2 but incase I won't be satisfied with the bass, then I would be getting a subwoofer, and that would mean I could get a better speaker right? Like Bx5a perhaps for 150$?
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Are you in the states? If so, I'd suggest a Dayton setup from Parts Express (also on Amazon I believe).

Dayton B652's
Dayton DTA-100a
Dayton SUB1200

Add in 50 feet of 16 gauge speaker wire, and a 3.5mm to RCA cable. You'll be out about $250, but you won't beat it for a 2.1 setup in that price range. Plus you'll be 110% future proof with it. You could add in whatever bookshelfs you wanted later, or whatever subwoofer you wanted later, and not have to worry about it. Although just the base setup alone is pretty darn good.

Going with an active set of 2.0's plus a seperate subwoofer will be very VERY hard to do, as you'll be limited to Windows to control the volume. You'd set the speakers + subwoofer seperately at max volume (so that they match sound wise, but max), and then use Windows to turn it down from there.

With the above Dayton setup, you'll have an actual desktop volume control which is nice.

The only other way to do a desktop volume control would be regular old 2.1 or 2.0 only (not adding onto them). And all of the options for 2.1 suck for $250 in comparison to a custom built set.

Thanks for recommendations, highly appreciate it. Sadly I don't leave in the states and getting it might be hard. But I'll look into that too.
Just wanna ask why is it hard if I get an active speaker + separate woofer? I mean setting the volume of the speaker and woofer to max then managing the volume on the desktop with the asus software that comes with the sound card should be easy right??.. Or I'm missing some point.
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If you don't like that route, the BX5A's are active so you won't need to buy an amplifier. They can also hold their own without a subwoofer for a while. 150 for a pair. Then you could immediately throw in for a Dayton Sub 80 and be done or save up more for a better subwoofer. Need to buy the appropriate cables too. I think the BX5A's are either Balanced XLR or TSR.

This is what I initially thought I should go for. But fantastic replies on these topic got me into thinking...
Do you agree that Bx5A would be a better speaker than A2 if I buy a separate woofer?
Can you recommend a nice woofer probably under 200$ too?
Thanks for the reply btw.
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Also a good idea, going for higher end bookshelfs + amp now, and a subwoofer later. I wouldn't personally suggest a 2.0 active set though, with the intention of upgrading later, as its too much of a hassle to make it work right.

Whatever you do, with this kind of budget, go for a used receiver or the DTA-100a, and some bookshelf speakers. Get a subwoofer with cheaper bookshelfs now, or buy more expensive bookshelfs and add a subwoofer later. Your choice there.

Sorry might be asking too much but this is a nice idea, can you recommend some products on these options? Thanks!
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You could also always find somebody in the states to get your package, and reship it to you too... wink.gif Just saying, that's a possibility too. It would cost a little more obviously, due to having to pay shipping again.

The reason why using active speakers + an active (powered) subwoofer is the volume. If you don't think that's an issue, then by all means go for it. You have a LOT more future upgrade possibilities by going with a nice amplifier or receiver + bookshelfs though, instead of buying an all in one setup. With a dedicated T amp or receiver, the possibilities are literally endless as to what you could use for speakers off of them. My DTA-100a is powering tower speakers right now, with no sub.
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You could also always find somebody in the states to get your package, and reship it to you too... wink.gif Just saying, that's a possibility too. It would cost a little more obviously, due to having to pay shipping again.
The reason why using active speakers + an active (powered) subwoofer is the volume. If you don't think that's an issue, then by all means go for it. You have a LOT more future upgrade possibilities by going with a nice amplifier or receiver + bookshelfs though, instead of buying an all in one setup. With a dedicated T amp or receiver, the possibilities are literally endless as to what you could use for speakers off of them. My DTA-100a is powering tower speakers right now, with no sub.

Hi pioneerisloud, its been a while, and thanks for the recommendations. I did plenty more reasearch and finally understood your warn about active speakers + subwoofers. Saved me from purchasing something I would have regretted. Don't get me wrong though as I believe the M-audio BX5a is a great speaker in its category!

I initially didn't like passive because of those big amps/receivers but found out there are small one like those DTA-100a you recommended.
I have increased my budget to 300-350$ for the amp and speaker + wires. I would add the woofer later.
With that, would you still recommend the DTA-100a? Or would there might be something better for a not so much increase in price? As much as possible, I would love it to look small and nice like the dta-100a.
I plan to buy the speakers locally as shipping will kill my budget. Some products sold here are
Polk audio RTI A3/ TSI 100/200/300/400 / M10
Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2
Wharfdale 10.1/10.7
B&W 685
Please do recommend if these are decent speaker. I might be able to add more on the list once I visit another shop. It's hard to fine reputable brands here in the Philippines, most speakers are china brand.

One more thing.. is the dayton speaker Dayton Audio B652 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker works on par than those I listed like the polk m10/ wharfedale 10.1? I've figured even with shipping.. they would still cost less than those product mentioned. It will cost me 100$.
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You could also always find somebody in the states to get your package, and reship it to you too... wink.gif Just saying, that's a possibility too. It would cost a little more obviously, due to having to pay shipping again.
The reason why using active speakers + an active (powered) subwoofer is the volume. If you don't think that's an issue, then by all means go for it. You have a LOT more future upgrade possibilities by going with a nice amplifier or receiver + bookshelfs though, instead of buying an all in one setup. With a dedicated T amp or receiver, the possibilities are literally endless as to what you could use for speakers off of them. My DTA-100a is powering tower speakers right now, with no sub.

Hi pioneerisloud, its been a while, and thanks for the recommendations. I did plenty more reasearch and finally understood your warn about active speakers + subwoofers. Saved me from purchasing something I would have regretted. Don't get me wrong though as I believe the M-audio BX5a is a great speaker in its category!

I initially didn't like passive because of those big amps/receivers but found out there are small one like those DTA-100a you recommended.
I have increased my budget to 300-350$ for the amp and speaker + wires. I would add the woofer later.
With that, would you still recommend the DTA-100a? Or would there might be something better for a not so much increase in price? As much as possible, I would love it to look small and nice like the dta-100a.
I plan to buy the speakers locally as shipping will kill my budget. Some products sold here are
Polk audio RTI A3/ TSI 100/200/300/400 / M10
Polk Audio Monitor 5 Series 2
Wharfdale 10.1/10.7
B&W 685
Please do recommend if these are decent speaker. I might be able to add more on the list once I visit another shop. It's hard to fine reputable brands here in the Philippines, most speakers are china brand.

One more thing.. is the dayton speaker Dayton Audio B652 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker works on par than those I listed like the polk m10/ wharfedale 10.1? I've figured even with shipping.. they would still cost less than those product mentioned. It will cost me 100$.

If you can get the DTA-100a shipped to you for not too terribly much money, then yes its going to be your best bet around $100 for an amplifier. For speakers, the ones you've listed are a very good bit better than the B652's. The B652's are honestly cheap budget speakers that do very excellent (I've got 4 pair now myself). They're $30-40 bookshelfs. The ones you're looking at, and listed above are all $200 or so bookshelfs here. There's a very large difference in quality.

If you can get the DTA-100a shipped for not too much, go for it. It's a solid amplifier (you will likely need a different power supply though, since its originally a 110v unit). The speakers...if you've got somewhere locally that you can listen to the various ones available, then pick the ones that sound best to your ears.
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If you can get the DTA-100a shipped to you for not too terribly much money, then yes its going to be your best bet around $100 for an amplifier. For speakers, the ones you've listed are a very good bit better than the B652's. The B652's are honestly cheap budget speakers that do very excellent (I've got 4 pair now myself). They're $30-40 bookshelfs. The ones you're looking at, and listed above are all $200 or so bookshelfs here. There's a very large difference in quality.
If you can get the DTA-100a shipped for not too much, go for it. It's a solid amplifier (you will likely need a different power supply though, since its originally a 110v unit). The speakers...if you've got somewhere locally that you can listen to the various ones available, then pick the ones that sound best to your ears.

Perfect then! I'll have it delivered tomorrow. About the 110v, do you mean I'll have to modify it somehow inside the amp? Or just use a power converter that converts 110v to 220v? The latter option is what we usually do here for 110v products.
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If you can get the DTA-100a shipped to you for not too terribly much money, then yes its going to be your best bet around $100 for an amplifier. For speakers, the ones you've listed are a very good bit better than the B652's. The B652's are honestly cheap budget speakers that do very excellent (I've got 4 pair now myself). They're $30-40 bookshelfs. The ones you're looking at, and listed above are all $200 or so bookshelfs here. There's a very large difference in quality.
If you can get the DTA-100a shipped for not too much, go for it. It's a solid amplifier (you will likely need a different power supply though, since its originally a 110v unit). The speakers...if you've got somewhere locally that you can listen to the various ones available, then pick the ones that sound best to your ears.

Perfect then! I'll have it delivered tomorrow. About the 110v, do you mean I'll have to modify it somehow inside the amp? Or just use a power converter that converts 110v to 220v? The latter option is what we usually do here for 110v products.

Power converter would work fine. thumb.gif
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