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1/30/12 at 11:57am
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I've seen people watercool their harddrives.

And?

An HDD cooler is not necessary, but if the anti-vibration entices you, then the cooling is an added benefit.

I wouldn't purchase one personally. But since OP already got one ... let's see how they perform tongue.gif
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post #12 of 22
1/30/12 at 1:28pm
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I have a stock 230mm front intake and an added 140mm bottom intake. Two 230mm top exhaust and 140mm rear exhaust. Additional 120mm external GPU exhaust. The drive bay behind the front intake has been left entirely empty so there is no disruption of airflow into the case where the real heat producers are. And cables have been managed to minimally disrupt airflow. Is there anything seriously wrong with that set up?

You mean besides having more airflow than it needs? rolleyes.gif
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post #13 of 22
1/30/12 at 2:49pm
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You mean besides having more airflow than it needs? rolleyes.gif

wink.gif I only want to build this thing once. So I'm building in things (including HDD coolers and fans) that might be more than needed. The three 230mm's and the rear exhaust are stock with the case (but the rear upgraded from 120mm to 140mm). One of the stock 230 exhausts, the added bottom 140 intake, the 120 supplemental GPU exhaust and the 120 on the CPU heatsink will all be on the Scythe Fan Controller. So I can turn those off if temps don't require them or the case threatens to take off.

I'm actually not too concerned about that because it's not very aerodynamic and after struggling to lift it off the workbench for photos I weighed it and it's just scraping under 45 lbs. I don't have a wind tunnel anymore but I'm pretty confident about it not generating much lift.

I didn't think about papers blowing around the office. But I suppose I could point the window fan at the billowing case and cancel out the room airflow.

I'm not sure where this build will live, but if it's the no a/c second floor ambient can be pretty high in Summer. I like having the extra capacity just in case. And I planned for more fans running at lower rpm and noise level rather than fewer higher rpm and noisier fans.
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1/31/12 at 4:44pm
LOL, glad to see a sense of humor.

Here's a story for you. Way back... around the time of Pentium III and early Athlons... my friends and I were really into having airflow. This was in the day of those 60mm 7000RPM Delta fans which were popular for CPU cooling. Well, in the ever lasting search for airflow, I discovered a 120x38mm 12v fan at some industrial surplus shop. With it as an exhaust fan, it would overpower all other fans in the system including the PSU fans, sucking air in the wrong way.
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post #15 of 22
2/1/12 at 8:05am
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I discovered a 120x38mm 12v fan at some industrial surplus shop. With it as an exhaust fan, it would overpower all other fans in the system including the PSU fans, sucking air in the wrong way.

I love prowling those industrial surplus yards. I actually got some aluminum for case mods at one and they do have some fans like that.

I also found some massive aluminum heat sinks anodized black... like 1/2" fins and channels milled in 1" plates. I could actually have covered both sides of my case in them and added another 25 pounds or so. It would still have been limited by component to air to metal heat transfer but imagine the coolness factor. But the 12 step program I'd been in for tool and scrap geeks paid off and I didn't buy them. I can actually walk by tools now in a hardware store without convincing myself I should buy it because I might need it some day. In another surplus place I was fondling a 15amp, 15" circular saw (used for dock and timber frame house construction) but didn't buy it. So I don't need the "more HP is better fan" anymore.
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post #16 of 22
2/1/12 at 8:12am
There is no need for additional HDD cooling in consumer cases.


http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/research.google.com/en/us/archive/disk_failures.pdf
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One of our key findings has been the lack of a consistent pattern of higher failure rates for higher temperature drives or for those drives at higher utilization levels.
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post #17 of 22
2/1/12 at 8:30am
I'd get a Titan TTC-HD90 instead.

Reduces temperature AND noise.
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2/9/12 at 10:21pm
any suggestions on "adding mass" to hard drives? i have mine suspended with rubber bands but they are quite loud still. it's just the sound of the motors i guess
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2/10/12 at 3:56am
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any suggestions on "adding mass" to hard drives? i have mine suspended with rubber bands but they are quite loud still. it's just the sound of the motors i guess

Take a look at the Titan TTC-HD90 Kauke suggested. There may be one or more similar anti-noise housings. I like the idea of isolating the drive for case vibration but actually like drive operation noise because it let's me know something is working. I'm not clear on whether the HDD activity light is going to work with the OS on a separate SSD. Maybe it's just an old habit from listening for signals from engines and other equipment.
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post #20 of 22
2/18/12 at 9:27pm
HDD coolers seems a bit extreme.
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