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Hi guys, my goal is to get a 6300 or 6400 overclocked to 3.0 ghz (or 3.2).

Here is the setup im about to order:

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Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 1.86GHZ 1066FSB 2MB Cache Retail Box

Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 ATX LGA775 Conroe P965 DDR2 PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 GBLAN Audio Motherboard

Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400 2GB 2X1GB PC6400 DDR2-800 Cl 5-5-5-12 240PIN Dimm Dual Channel Memory

Sapphire Radeon X1900 XT 620MHZ PCI-E 256MB 256BIT 1.4GHZ GDRR3 Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card

Thermaltake VA8000 Armor Super Tower Case Black 10X5.25 2X3.5 6X3.5INT W/ Window

OCZ PowerStream 520W ATX12V V2.0 BTX 20/24PIN Low Noise Power Supply W/ SLI

Zalman CNPS9500 LED Copper CPU Heat Sink 92MM Fan 1350-2600RPM 18-27.5DBA W/ Blue LED

Arctic Silver 5 HIGH-DENSITY Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound 3.5 Gram

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At 1st i wanted the 6400 for the additional multiplier, but it seams the 6300 can do the job (3ghz), so i dont see why i should spend the extra money for the 6400.

I wanted the Big Typhoon, but its not in stock right now and the difference between the Zalman 9500 and BT doesnt look that huge.

Is 520W good enough? or i should spend 20$ more for a 600W?

Can i go cheaper on the memory? which one would do the job?

Thanks for your inputs!

Mark
post #2 of 22
I am missing hard drives, and optical also.

Also, the DS3 does not support RAID on the southbridge (ICH8). It only supports RAID on a secondary controller over the PCI bus. (RAID0 and RAID1). If you want to run RAID, you should probably look for a different board. If no RAID is in your plans, or RAID over the PCI bus is fine with you, then the DS3 is a good board.

This Mushkin RAM is a bit cheaper than the Corsair you picked:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...N&promoid=1051

And I'd go with the 600W OCZ GameXStream. It's about the same price as the Powerstream, and a really high quality PSU (build by FSP):
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...y&promoid=1051

EDIT: This G.Skill kit looks like an insanely good deal to me:
http://www.anitec.ca/product/6973/g....6400_ddr2_kit/
2x1 GB DDR2 800 CAS5 for $259.95CAD (!!!).

A step up on the G.Skill ladder is this kit here (not in stock):
http://www.anitec.ca/product/6568/g....6400_ddr2_kit/

The cheapest G.Skill likely won't overclock as much as the other one, but since you're looking at 3.0 GHz (FSB = 430), the RAM only needs to be able to hit DDR2 860 speeds (1:1 with CPU). I would assume either kit to be capable of that. If you want to be sure the RAM can do that, I'd recomment the green G.Skill kit.... probably better chips and such. I wonder how long their 'special order' process takes though.
    
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If you are 110% sure you don't wan't to go above 3ghz, then the E63 is fine. It will still go to 3.5-4 but not as easy as the E64.

I'm not familiar with the ram, just make sure it has good reviews, but maybe try for better timings like 4-4-4-12.

You may wan't to wait for the DS4, it will have the ICH8R and SLI, but if neither of these matter, then I guess not.

I love my OCZ GameXstreme 600w, I don't how much the PowerXstreme cost, but the Game has 4 x 12v @ 18a each, which is lots of power.

The Zalman has fallen off quit a bit in the CPU cooler market. The huge heat pipe towers are awsome. Check out the Intel Air cooling section in the Intel CPU section, see what works best.

When do you plan to change to Vista/DX10? X1900 is great, but you may be better off spending a little less and waiting for DX10. My 7900GS isan't a monster, but it plays everything I throw at it and should last till DX10 is needed.

Best thing to do is look at other peoples rigs in the build logs and other areas and see what works. Don't get ancy and jump the gun, take your time and get it right the first time. You won't die if you wait 3 more days to order, but you could save a ton of headaches.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FunYun
If you are 110% sure you don't wan't to go above 3ghz, then the E63 is fine. It will still go to 3.5-4 but not as easy as the E64.

I'm not familiar with the ram, just make sure it has good reviews, but maybe try for better timings like 4-4-4-12.

You may wan't to wait for the DS4, it will have the ICH8R and SLI, but if neither of these matter, then I guess not.

I love my OCZ GameXstreme 600w, I don't how much the PowerXstreme cost, but the Game has 4 x 12v @ 18a each, which is lots of power.

The Zalman has fallen off quit a bit in the CPU cooler market. The huge heat pipe towers are awsome. Check out the Intel Air cooling section in the Intel CPU section, see what works best.

When do you plan to change to Vista/DX10? X1900 is great, but you may be better off spending a little less and waiting for DX10. My 7900GS isan't a monster, but it plays everything I throw at it and should last till DX10 is needed.

Best thing to do is look at other peoples rigs in the build logs and other areas and see what works. Don't get ancy and jump the gun, take your time and get it right the first time. You won't die if you wait 3 more days to order, but you could save a ton of headaches.
Very very very wrong statement, considering every E6300 chip can go over 3.0Ghz with ease. I got mine to run at 3.4 with little effort. I have both the E6300 and E6400 and both chips can have the same Overclocking. Therefore, getting the E6300 and overclocking it will yield better performance for the price comparison
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The problem with the 4-4-4-12 RAM is that it's insanely expensive now. Timings don't matter that much for Intel rigs anyways (Intel loves bandwidth more). I believe good quality DDR2 800 RAM with CAS5 would be good enough. My choice would be the green G.Skill kit.

The DS4 is a good option also. Do note that SLI is not supported out of the box, but only with modded drivers, like any other Intel chipset board with dual PCI-E slots. SLI nor Crossfire is officially supported on the DS4. Also, I am not sure when it will come out in Canada.

Good point about the video card. However, the X1900XT is not *that* expensive anymore, and a very good card.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey122687
Very very very wrong statement, considering every E6300 chip can go over 3.0Ghz with ease. I got mine to run at 3.4 with little effort. I have both the E6300 and E6400 and both chips can have the same Overclocking. Therefore, getting the E6300 and overclocking it will yield better performance for the price comparison
How is it wrong? I never said E63 can't go over 3ghz, I said "It will still go to 3.5-4 but not as easy as the E64." Running lower FSB is always easier. That means the extra multiplier on the E64 is better, but price wise its better in a very small way. Which is why I said "110% sure you don't wan't to go above 3ghz". I used 3ghz because thats what he is shooting for, not because its some special wall that is extremly hard to get over. Hell my rig is good to 475x7=3325ghz and 950mhz ram so far, and its far from uber ram.

Yes, ram with those timings would be very exspensive, which is another reason to go for E64. Though all this doesn't realy apply till you get to 4ghz and beyond or as long as your not using junk ram. Hence my first question in the post is if he's absolutely certain he doesn't want to go above 3ghz.

Why, because at first I thought I would be content with a good 3ghz E63, but now I'm infected with the OC Virus and wish I had gotten better ram.
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Originally Posted by Chozart
My choice would be the green G.Skill kit.

Just so you know, the Green G.Skill didn't work with my Gigabyte 965P-S3 board... I've since RMA'ed it and will probably get the HZ, which is aparently better and more compatible (as per some users here and elsewhere).
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Originally Posted by Jimmy2Shoe
Just so you know, the Green G.Skill didn't work with my Gigabyte 965P-S3 board... I've since RMA'ed it and will probably get the HZ, which is aparently better and more compatible (as per some users here and elsewhere).
Well lightsource has the green kit and the DS3 and it works fine. You need to add vdimm on the first boot.
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how much is the P5B in canada?
 
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$173.39

That's actually the same price as the DS3 (?!?!?!) At least on that website...

Good call
    
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