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I've successfully built my first computer and thanks to OCN's advice and help I'm very happy with it.

My only problem with the build is the cooling, I currently have 6 Coolermaster R4s and I'm quite disappointed with them, especially when I compare them to my CM690-II and Hyper 212+ which are great. 2 of them make clicking noises while the other 2 make whining and 'scraping' noises which no other fan I've seen does, the other 2 click very rarely but are OK most of the time.

I've heard good things about the Scythe Gentle Typhoon (AP-15) and at the moment I'm planning on getting some from here. Is this a good fan to get? If I'm spending upwards of £60 I don't want something regrettable. Also is it worth getting 140mm fans for the three slots that will take them on my case? If do are there any in particular that are worth having a look at (no louder than the Scythe GTs please), I did spot the Scythe Kaze Maru 2 but I'm sure if it's as good or better. Also since they can be fitted on a 120mm hole, could/should I just get 6 Kaze fans rather than 6 GTs? Thank you for any help here.

I've noticed a build up of dust just beyond my CM stock filters and was wondering if it is normal or not. Do different types of dust filters perform better than others? i.e. will spending more stop more dust with less obstruction, it's a nooby question but I want max airflow.

NOTE: Sorry if this is the wrong section but it seemed silly putting this in a different thread.

Does anyone know some good case lighting, blue. I don't mind what 'type' as long as it's good value and looks good, I'll be losing my fan LEDs you see...

I know this is a bit of a long post so thanks in advance for any replies.
Edited by sandythedog - 1/22/12 at 11:22am
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The Gentle Typhoons are very good fans. They're mostly used on radiators for a water cooling loop, but they work equally well for case fans. I would suggest getting the AP-14s though, the RPM isn't as high, but they are a little quieter and I don't really think you need an extreme amount of air flow, but it's your case and you know what is best. I would stick with 120mm, they're isn't much of a different between 140 and 120. The build of dust is normal, it means dust isn't getting into your case, but you should either remove them or vacuum off the dust from time to time. NZXT makes a good LED set, they come in a sort of rope I believe. Hope this helps.
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Also is it worth getting 140mm fans for the three slots that will take them on my case? If do are there any in particular that are worth having a look at (no louder than the Scythe GTs please),

Thermalright X-Silent 140 would be my choice in that slot. Not sure on your area's availability. The Sharkoon is said to be excellent. Cost an arm and leg to get them in the States.

interesting writeup on 140mm. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/140mm-fan-roundup.html

Careful of 140s made to only fit in 120mm slots.
    
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I would suggest getting the AP-14s though, the RPM isn't as high, but they are a little quieter...

I forgot to mention that I have a fan controller, so the high RPM version will offer more flexibility, because I can always turn them down. The dust is on the inside of the case, just past the dust filter, it collects most of it but seems to be letting some in; is this normal or should I get a different filter to the stock one that came with my CM-690II?
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Thermalright X-Silent 140 would be my choice in that slot. Not sure on your area's availability. The Sharkoon is said to be excellent. Cost an arm and leg to get them in the States.
interesting writeup on 140mm. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/140mm-fan-roundup.html
Careful of 140s made to only fit in 120mm slots.

Thanks for the info, +rep.

After reading some reviews and looking at the stats of the GTs (AP-15) and the TY-140 I think I'll get three of each, is this a good choice? The setup will be as follows:

front intake: TY-140mm
bottom intake: GT AP-15
side intake: GT AP-15

rear exhaust: GT AP-15
top exhausts: TY-140mm

Thanks again, I'm off to look at case lighting.
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imo the Gentle Typhoons arent ideal intake/exhaust fans; really more for high pressure slots like on radiators. The Scythe Slipstream (often called the Kaze Jyuni) would give better cfm at lower rpm, and the loss in static pressure that makes the GT strong on radiators wont be missed as a case fan. They're also extremely quiet under 1100rpm while pushing a surprising amount of air. Possibly my favorite 'all-around' fan, as it even has fairly respectable static pressure (just not on par with the GT). They're less costly, too. That and some people, including myself, have gotten GTs that make a high pitch whine. Seems more common with the AP-14 though.

Here's a vid. Forward about 2 minutes in, and you can hear the noise, and even see the dark blue frequency spike in the hz meter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm6jlrqifQE. I'm listening to it from my GT as I type this, heh.
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Okay, I've narrowed it down to these two:
Thermalright TY-140
Scythe Slip Stream 140mm

I like the look of the Scythe more and it has a higher max CFM, however this comes at the expense of a higher noise output.
I'm not overkeen on the TY-140's appearance however it's a lot quieter whilst still moving a lot of air.

They both mount in 120mm holes and I think I'd be able to get them in all six of my 120mm slots (CM-690-II case). Which one would you go for?

At the moment I'm leaning towards the Scythe as it looks better (imo) and I can tune it down a tad with my controller.
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TY140 Best 140mm fan
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TY140 Best 140mm fan

Okay, looks like I'm going for six TY-140s thumb.gif
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very very good decision!
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very very good decision!

Why thank you, kind sir.
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