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post #11 of 165
I really think they are talking about the GTX680 not the 660 because of the TDP. ITs just not adding up, i guess we will know soon.
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Yeah I don't buy it. It would go totally against what we have seen the previous few generations. 7970 is about 30% faster then a 580 at stock and I doubt the 780 improves upon the 7970 that much. I expect it to be faster for sure but not what they are talking about. Just doesn't make sense.

I'm not sure how the 4 series was a huge dissapointment though my 480 oc'd exceeds stock 580 numbers. Just need to cool it properly.
    
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this is too much for me to believe.
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Even if the new mainstream NVIDIA card is a little slower than a 7950 (and thus much slower than a 7970) it could cause massive price adjustments if it is priced as a mainstream card. I hope this is all true as I need something to adjust prices. $750 in Australia for a 7970 is just too much for me to justify and I doubt the 7950 will be much better without competition from NVIDIA.
 
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Eh, it's believable, but not by much. I pretty much know the GTX 680 will be faster than the 7970 (as it always seems that Nvidia has been releasing the fastest single card solutions for quite some time now), but I think it's only going to be about 10% faster, considering that would put it about 25-30% faster than the GTX 580. However, once fixed the scaling will be better for Crossfire (as SLI never has as good of scaling as Crossfire), making the 7990 faster than the GTX 690.

So I'll just buy a 7990 once they are released and do some crazy three way crossfire action!
post #16 of 165
Nvidia has never been as power efficient, and AMD is knocking on 300-watt TDP with their 7970.

Either Nvidia rewrote the book, or this is false. Seriously... take this with a very big grain of salt.
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Why?
AMD clocked the 7970 series pretty conservatively, presumably to keep it within 20-30% of the 580.
Why would NVIDIA released a mid-range part that is faster than their last-gen flagship and the competition's flagship? It would mess around with pricing of the (expensive-to-produce) old generation and have problematic consequences for competition. It would reduce margins for all players.
Unless of course the 760 Ti is $500-600 and the 780 is even more expensive.

Even nVidia's initial fumble with Fermi, the GTX460 still turned out to be faster than the 285. When they finally fixed it with the 560Ti it was even faster. Why would it be unreasonable to expect that trend to continue with the GTX660/760 to be faster than the GTX580? It seems unlikely that nVidia will fumble with Kepler as badly as they did with Fermi...

You have to keep in mind that GCN is a departure from gaming performance efficiency to focus more on improving HPC / GPGPU performance, and thus there is a loss in gaming efficiency. While you might see AMD being conservative with the 7970's clock rate when you look at how much overclocking headroom it has, when we look at the fact that the 7970 is currently consuming more power under load than the 6970, what we really see is that AMD clocked the 7970 just enough to make sure it beat the 580 by a tangible margin across the board, rather than sticking with previously established load power consumption levels with the 6970 and then potentially tying or losing to the GTX580, even if only in just a benchmark or two.
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If the mid-range gtx 660 will have a 225w tdp, what will the gtx 680 have?
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Eh, it's believable, but not by much. I pretty much know the GTX 680 will be faster than the 7970 (as it always seems that Nvidia has been releasing the fastest single card solutions for quite some time now), but I think it's only going to be about 10% faster, considering that would put it about 25-30% faster than the GTX 580. However, once fixed the scaling will be better for Crossfire (as SLI never has as good of scaling as Crossfire), making the 7990 faster than the GTX 690.
So I'll just buy a 7990 once they are released and do some crazy three way crossfire action!

The thing I can't believe is about the mid-range 660 (or 760 or however they are naming it) beating a 7970 (As stated in the OP). However I can believe that a 680/780 will probably out perform a 7970.
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The article quotes MID-Range. GTX 680 is not midrange. 680 will be GK110 as shown in this pic
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A user on a Chinese Web forum has just posted online a picture of what seems to be a GK110 GPU, the graphics core that Nvidia will use for the upcoming GeForce GTX 680 video card.

Included above this post, the picture was deliberately modified to remove its markings, but we can still make out the fact that this is actually an A2 revision GPU.

Outside of this fact, little else is known about the GK110 GPU, but as all Kepler parts it will be fabricated using TSMC’s 28nm process.

This should both decrease the power consumption of the Nvidia core and also make it run cooler.

The biggest mystery surrounding Kepler right now is when will Nvidia actually release these GPUs, but we’ll keep our eyes and ears open to see if we can find out more.
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