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450
Enough salt ????

Nope, it's far too much in fact...
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post #102 of 165
I can't take any of this seriously because

1) charlie hates nvidia
2) I really think he's trolling or being sarcastic
3) kepler is vaporware until its in a reviewers hands
4) rest assured I will buy one if its good
5) Nv marketing are scumbags, they did this same type of internet hype crap with Fermi 9 months before release
6) Nv said they would double 5870 performance, did that happen NO
7) Nv marketing are FOS

Okay whew. All that said if its good i'll buy it. I have a feeling that its either really good or really terrbile (and hence Charlie trolling based on that)

This reeks of scumbag NV marketing all over again. They did the SAME CRAP with Fermi. "Fermi gtx 480 will double the performance of 5870"!! rolleyes.gif Oh hey guys the woodscrews fermi is ready ! (10 months later) GTX 480 is released, 15% faster than 5870. Whatever.
Edited by xoleras - 1/21/12 at 1:52pm
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Wait for new cards, buy older cards for cheaper, spend remaining cash on other things, profit. End of story.
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Well, from what I have read, many people are currently comparing the GTX 580 with the 7970. Has anybody cared to compare AMD's flagship card with their last-gen one? The performance gains compared to their previous flagship card are great. Not to mention the 7970's overclocking potential, which the 6970 didn't really have.

The other thing that people need to keep in mind with the 7970 is that the GCN architecture is great for computing. That's one of the main advantages of the 7970. If you look at this section in Anandtech's review you will see that the 7970 is relatively at the top in all of the computing benchmarks; it even beats some of the dual-gpu counterparts. This really gives NV's cuda cores a run for their money, especially since AMD really hasn't been known for having computing graphics cards until now.

Keep in mind that the title says on softpedia "Mid-Range NVIDIA Kepler to Challenge AMD 7900 High-End Cards" High end could be either the 7950 or the 7970 as the 7950 certainly isn't a midrange card (either way it's still disappointing if this rumor is true). I believe that this rumor is fake mainly because if NV brings out a midrange card that beats AMD's flagship, it would change the graphics card market as we know it for the worse. It could also put AMD's gpu division in a horrible position (probably similar to BD).

What I CAN see though is the GTX 670/770 replacing the 580, which brings up another point:
  • 560 TI is introduced, and it has performance similar to the 470. It competes with the 1GB/2GB 6950.
  • 570 is introduced, and it has performance similar to the 480. It competes with the 6970.
  • 580 (before introduction of the 7970) is the best single GPU card.


If NV keeps up with the revisions of the same architecture, we can see the same pattern with the 600/700 series:

  • 660/760 TI is released, and it has performance similar to the 570. It competes with the 6970/78XX
  • 670/770 is released, and it has performance similar to the 580. Will have performance comparable to the 7950
  • 680/780 is the best single GPU card. The 7970 will probably be very close in performance with NV's counterpart. There's a reason why the 7970 has a flagship price of ~$570.
  • Extra: AMD releases 1GB 6950 and Black Edition 6870 to further compete with the 560 TI and to fill in some price range gaps.


Even if NV's flagship card outperforms it, AMD will probably lower the 7970 to the rumored $450 to further increase the price/performance ratio. I can also see AMD doing what the extra says up above if things start getting shaky. 1.5GB 7970/7950 anyone?
Edited by airisom2 - 1/21/12 at 3:39pm
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AMD cards IMO will always be the price/performance champs. It's why the 7970 is currently the same price or less as MOST all GTX 580s on newegg.
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AMD cards IMO will always be the price/performance champs. It's why the 7970 is currently the same price or less as MOST all GTX 580s on newegg.
Wha??? I've yet to see an HD 7970 sub $550.
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If the mid-range gtx 660 will have a 225w tdp, what will the gtx 680 have?

420watt?


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AMD cards IMO will always be the price/performance champs. It's why the 7970 is currently the same price or less as MOST all GTX 580s on newegg.

Just remember u get what u pay for! The older u get the more u realize this is soo true! thumb.gif
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Just remember u get what u pay for! The older u get the more u realize this is soo true! thumb.gif

what a good way to call the amd gpus crap
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[/B] Wha??? I've yet to see an HD 7970 sub $550.

Every 3GB GTX 580 is 549 or more. Why would I pay more to get less? The choice is kinda obvious if you want a 3GB card. Oh, and the GTX 580s cant even drive more than 2 screens! Big no no for someone like me who has 3... If NVidia can make a single card power 3 screens then I may consider buying one of their cards when they release. No dual GPU cards because then you have to deal with SLi issues...
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Just remember u get what u pay for! The older u get the more u realize this is soo true! thumb.gif

As for this... Yea, I went from 2 cards to 1 card that performs just about the same. I paid for an awesome card and I got an awesome card. Same thing when I bought my HD 4870s, my HD 5850s and HD 6950s and now a HD 7970. Still debating the need for a second one....
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