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I think the 1gb of ram was not the only issue. xfire scaling was nowhere as good as the 6 series when they came out. DX11 was much improved with the 6 series also. Loved my 5870s, but the 6 series was a needed improvement.

Oh yeah. Silly me, forgot about that doh.gif

Scaling was increased from a ~70% to a 95% in best case scenarios!

This makes me wonder even more what'd happened if the 5870s scaled at a 95% too.
   
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I don't bother to read the whole conversation, but from the "u mad bro?" , tells me you're an immature idiot.
OCN is the home of PC enthusiasts, not childish idiots who HAS to pick on other members.
Can't act like a grown up? Leave.
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Rich from the person who does not read the thread, considering he is calling people morons and the likes.
Also joining a thread just to have a go at someone and having no input on the topic at hand.
You sir are off the Christmas card list, U MAD BRO?

I'm sorry, I too am affected by the misguided superiority complex. rolleyes.gif
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I don't bother to read the whole conversation, but from the "u mad bro?" , tells me you're an immature idiot.
OCN is the home of PC enthusiasts, not childish idiots who HAS to pick on other members.
Can't act like a grown up? Leave.
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He was actually bashing on someone who is bashing people spending their own money on what they want regardless of reason. Hence the "U Mad Bro" comment.
     
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You can never compare CFX-framerates to single-GPU framerates: My 7970 at stock (925/1375) was a lot smoother in games like Arkham City, Crysis, The Witcher 2, Metro 2033 and the likes compared to 6950 CFX @ 950/1500. Now that my 7970 is overclocked, it's in a completely different league.

Those of you saying CFX-issues can be "solved" are clearly not bothered by AFR and the inherent issues with it, it doesn't make sense to put up with those issues unless you have no other option at all. The problem with AFR is so big to me that even at 120 fps locked with the lowest settings in BF3 I would still notice a certain amount of stuttering with CFX, I tried other drivers and CAPs and settings as well and the best fix was to deactivate CFX. I envy those who don't notice the stuttering caused by AFR, but I am not one of them.
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I feel like i am not part off OCN anymore. Everyone goes crazy about 1080p resolutions. To my understating for 1080p is better to have a single card like HD 7970 and at the same time older generation CF or SLI setups are more then enough hence no need to get HD 7970. For me which i splay 1440p single GPU is NEVER a option. I have to turn setting down yo get 60fps+. The whole Single vs Dual GPU does not exist in my world. I have used HD 6970 for 2560x1440 and its was lag fest. Even HD 7970 which just came out will not provide adduce fps in relevance to its pricing. I dont like people that drop Dual GPUs like HD 6950/70, GTX470/80/570/80 just so they can get a Single strong GPU [Because they dont want to deal with CF/SLI problems] and then come 6 months latter asking id he/she should get a second card for CF/SLI. To pme people that go CF and SLI are thriving for performance and not wining about problems. Kind of like having a custom build car { daa it will be less reliable } but it will cost to get that performance out a factory build car.

My sentiments exactly. I'm running on 3 screens and could not fathom going back to 1gb card. I'm rocking 4 6950s cuz I took the cheapest route to this level of power, cuz it made sense. Well, as much sense as 1100 bucks for 4 cards can make sense. lmaosmiley.gif

In my setup two cards are not remotely enough, three is just getting warm, and four is about right for three screens. I'm guessing that three 7970s will give me a decent boost over four 6950s considering two 7970s matches quadfire 6990s. Anyways, I think we're on a different program directive and some of these people telling us what we should need or not need, have just got no clue.
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Can I see the DX11 scores? Are you talking vs a stock HD7970?
Stock for stock. Used the Guru 3D review as a comparison. According to G3D, the 7970 scored just shy of 8k @ stock @ 3.4GHz with a 2600k. i7 920 @ stock with turbo off (2.693Ghz) + 2 560Ti's, beat it by 40 points. With Turbo on (2813MHz), beat it heartily by 500 points. The original screenshot is floating around here somewhere. Don't feel like looking for it. Rig's been sold anyway. Working on my next build 2600 or 2700K + 2 unlocked 6950's. I'm sure it'll still beat the 7970. wink.gif
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But it takes 2 GPU's and because of this you can and will deal with more screen tear/fluttering issues, like you might if you had a CrossfireX setup.
Not an issue with a single GPU, which is the whole point.
Nothing enabling Vsync couldn't take care of. wink.gif
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You need to remember that every hardware site will benchmark games in their own way, in Battlefield 3 for example some review sites may play a certain part of a level or simulate a multiplayer environment with other players.
And this is where it's really difficult to bench a game like BF3. There is simply too much inconsistency with multiplayer to be able to accurately compare anything.
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I feel like i am not part off OCN anymore. Everyone goes crazy about 1080p resolutions. To my understating for 1080p is better to have a single card like HD 7970 and at the same time older generation CF or SLI setups are more then enough hence no need to get HD 7970. For me which i splay 1440p single GPU is NEVER a option. I have to turn setting down yo get 60fps+. The whole Single vs Dual GPU does not exist in my world. I have used HD 6970 for 2560x1440 and its was lag fest. Even HD 7970 which just came out will not provide adduce fps in relevance to its pricing. I dont like people that drop Dual GPUs like HD 6950/70, GTX470/80/570/80 just so they can get a Single strong GPU [Because they dont want to deal with CF/SLI problems] and then come 6 months latter asking id he/she should get a second card for CF/SLI. To pme people that go CF and SLI are thriving for performance and not wining about problems. Kind of like having a custom build car { daa it will be less reliable } but it will cost to get that performance out a factory build car.
Same here. Since the site change and everything else, I've been barely on here at all. I may post once per day, usually I don't anymore. Lots of unnecessary rudeness, smug and arrogant people. What happened to the mods patrolling threads and quelling that? Not so much. Not to mention I freakin HATE this user interface with a passion. mad.gif

At any rate, I'm in the same boat as you, I never consider a single cards solution, and haven't done so since 2005. For me, everything runs smoother and faster. I don't need it per se, but I have it anyway. biggrin.gif
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the 5870 is still a beastly card. the 6970 was only marginally better because of the added vram.
Try again, the 5870 performs worse than a 6950, with the rare exception of some old DX9 titles.
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You can never compare CFX-framerates to single-GPU framerates: My 7970 at stock (925/1375) was a lot smoother in games like Arkham City, Crysis, The Witcher 2, Metro 2033 and the likes compared to 6950 CFX @ 950/1500. Now that my 7970 is overclocked, it's in a completely different league.
Those of you saying CFX-issues can be "solved" are clearly not bothered by AFR and the inherent issues with it, it doesn't make sense to put up with those issues unless you have no other option at all. The problem with AFR is so big to me that even at 120 fps locked with the lowest settings in BF3 I would still notice a certain amount of stuttering with CFX, I tried other drivers and CAPs and settings as well and the best fix was to deactivate CFX. I envy those who don't notice the stuttering caused by AFR, but I am not one of them.

Man I don't get what is with people and their crossfire issues. Having run CF since the 4870 was king, I haven't had nary an issue with it. no microstutter or anything else that rendered a game unplayable. (screen tearing is not a graphic card issue so I wonder why people bring it up (it's a monitor issue and PEBKAC)).

I guess the main thing is, if people weren't completely ignorant to the fact that they're exceeding design specifications, and then *****ing about it, there wouldn't be all of these damn whiny threads. Funny how people on a TEXT based forum don't want to read.
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My sentiments exactly. I'm running on 3 screens and could not fathom going back to 1gb card. I'm rocking 4 6950s cuz I took the cheapest route to this level of power, cuz it made sense. Well, as much sense as 1100 bucks for 4 cards can make sense. lmaosmiley.gif
In my setup two cards are not remotely enough, three is just getting warm, and four is about right for three screens. I'm guessing that three 7970s will give me a decent boost over four 6950s considering two 7970s matches quadfire 6990s. Anyways, I think we're on a different program directive and some of these people telling us what we should need or not need, have just got no clue.

What some people are trying to say is that a single high end GPU seems to work better than running dual cards and then the real hard core enthusiasts will sli/crossfire high end GPU's. There is no wrong way with how anyone spends their own money here.

I'd grab 2x 7970's on a single 1080P monitor simply to run every game I play at max settings and never get under 60FPS minimum at all. I like to see my gpu(s) in the trippple digits at all times if possible.

For me, it's better to resell my current gen GPU's and use extra money elsewhere to support my hobby. I sold my GTX 580 to Kcuestag for $260... A GTX 580 and sold my i7 920/RAM/Gskill that I had laying around here collecting dust and spent 0$ on my 7970 I'm waiting for now.

I'd like to crossfire it on a 1080P monitor until I can find some thin bezel monitors for eyefinity.
     
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Oh yeah. Silly me, forgot about that doh.gif
Scaling was increased from a ~70% to a 95% in best case scenarios!
This makes me wonder even more what'd happened if the 5870s scaled at a 95% too.

If they scaled like that, I swear, That would be freaking awesome.
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What some people are trying to say is that a single high end GPU seems to work better than running dual cards and then the real hard core enthusiasts will sli/crossfire high end GPU's. There is no wrong way with how anyone spends their own money here.
I'd grab 2x 7970's on a single 1080P monitor simply to run every game I play at max settings and never get under 60FPS minimum at all. I like to see my gpu(s) in the trippple digits at all times if possible.
For me, it's better to resell my current gen GPU's and use extra money elsewhere to support my hobby. I sold my GTX 580 to Kcuestag for $260... A GTX 580 and sold my i7 920/RAM/Gskill that I had laying around here collecting dust and spent 0$ on my 7970 I'm waiting for now.
I'd like to crossfire it on a 1080P monitor until I can find some thin bezel monitors for eyefinity.

Kcuestag made out like a bandit! I sold two 580s and two ref 6950 2gbs for three 7970s. My wife is like all shifty eyes at me as I sell, out with the old and in with the new!
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Kcuestag made out like a bandit! I sold two 580s and two ref 6950 2gbs for three 7970s. My wife is like all shifty eyes at me as I sell, out with the old and in with the new!

I don't have that much money to do that, if I did, I'd be doing it tongue.gif. I was going to pick up 2 7970's, but I ship out to basic in less than a month... I gotta wait till after tongue.gif
     
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