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Originally Posted by QuackPot View Post

So this should be equal to a 2500k or a 2600k if it's lucky?

0/10; 8150 already beats 2500k... even in floating point which is BD's weakest point

unless you spend all your time running programs coded for 3 or less threads (ie vidya; people on ocn seem to forget that computers do more than play games rolleyes.gif)
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ARM=/=x86
It's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Yes, you could run a program that is coded for both ARM and x86, like DOOM for example and benchmark it, but understand that most of the real games that you would run are generally x86 only.
This means that while the A8 might be powerful enough to play a game like Half-Life, it never will because the code has never been ported to it.
I say the i3 wins.

AMD A8 =/= ARM Cortex A8

The A8 is the product of crappy marketing (i7 -- Intel 7 -- and A8 -- AMD 8 -- implying the A8 is better when it really is nowhere close)
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I think AMD should have stuck to 8 cores/4 modules and improved the IPC while lowering the power draw and heat.

It does those three last things AND adds another module.
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Why does every thread involving either AMD or Intel involve arguments about one being better than the other? It's mainly a matter of personal preference and budget.
    
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I would say, any i7/i5/i3s give better gaming experiences than any FX CPUs or as a matter of fact, any AMD CPUs.
Well that's just not true at all...
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0/10; 8150 already beats 2500k... even in floating point which is BD's weakest point
unless you spend all your time running programs coded for 3 or less threads (ie vidya; people on ocn seem to forget that computers do more than play games rolleyes.gif)


0/10 for you too.

BD just beats the 2500k, just when it comes the highly threaded apps. Not everyone on OCN folds or scans their PCs all day. Plus it uses nearly 2x the power for equal or less than equal performance compared to SB. Adding two more cores really isn't going to do much performance wise. It'll just raise the power consumption and temps some more. Not the mention the price.



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Well that's just not true at all...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=289


You sure?
Edited by QuackPot - 1/22/12 at 9:01am
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Why does every thread involving either AMD or Intel involve arguments about one being better than the other? It's mainly a matter of personal preference and budget.

It's a matter of one's needs and budget, not preference. Anyone who blindly buys a product because of brand preference is foolish. If I had money to spend and was a gamer I'd have a 2500k and some 7970s in my rig. If I did CAD and stuff like that for a living I'd probably have a 3930k and a few Quadros. If I was an HPC supercomputer owner I would definitely want to have Opteron 6200s and Teslas in my machines. If I was on a budget of $300 for an entire computer, I'd get a Llano dual-core.
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=289
You sure?

Oh wow, there's a difference in ONE GAME!!!!1 AND AT THE SUPER HIGH RESOLUTION OF 1680X1050!!!!!1!!!!111
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Quad DDR3 sounds like a marketing gimmick.
The current controllers can't even saturate both of the existing channels.
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0/10; 8150 already beats 2500k... even in floating point which is BD's weakest point
unless you spend all your time running programs coded for 3 or less threads (ie vidya; people on ocn seem to forget that computers do more than play games rolleyes.gif)
AMD A8 =/= ARM Cortex A8
The A8 is the product of crappy marketing (i7 -- Intel 7 -- and A8 -- AMD 8 -- implying the A8 is better when it really is nowhere close)
It does those three last things AND adds another module.
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It's a matter of one's needs and budget, not preference. Anyone who blindly buys a product because of brand preference is foolish. If I had money to spend and was a gamer I'd have a 2500k and some 7970s in my rig. If I did CAD and stuff like that for a living I'd probably have a 3930k and a few Quadros. If I was an HPC supercomputer owner I would definitely want to have Opteron 6200s and Teslas in my machines. If I was on a budget of $300 for an entire computer, I'd get a Llano dual-core.
Oh wow, there's a difference in ONE GAME!!!!1 AND AT THE SUPER HIGH RESOLUTION OF 1680X1050!!!!!1!!!!111

Uhh, for a 8 core not to trounce a dual core, that's is nothing short of pathetic on AMD's part.
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Uhh, for a 8 core not to trounce a dual core, that's is nothing short of pathetic on AMD's part.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/157?vs=289

It's more pathetic on the developer's part. Everyone's pushing multi-core CPUs, yet almost every game is a horridly unoptimized console port that can't use more than one core or more than 4gb of memory.
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Uhh, for a 8 core not to trounce a dual core, that's is nothing short of pathetic on AMD's part.

Really I've seen that AMD in certain programs just gets hammered by Intel because the programs just favor Intel for some reason. A lot of MS programs sure do. Unless AMD can make it where the unloaded cores can help out with the threads/loads being put on the other cores then adding more cores isn't really going to help much outside of well threaded programs. Come to think of it...why can't cores double up on a single thread(I wish I knew something about programming/architecture design)?
     
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Really I've seen that AMD in certain programs just gets hammered by Intel because the programs just favor Intel for some reason. A lot of MS programs sure do. Unless AMD can make it where the unloaded cores can help out with the threads/loads being put on the other cores then adding more cores isn't really going to help much outside of well threaded programs. Come to think of it...why can't cores double up on a single thread(I wish I knew something about programming/architecture design)?

Can you elaborate your question?
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