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post #21 of 364
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Originally Posted by kaingosu View Post

No need to get mad, it's just the way i hold the mouse.
http://assets.razerzone.com/peripherals-guide/mouse/images/clawgrip.jpg
In a claw grip ppl usually hold the mouse from the front, resting the back of the hand on the back of the mouse. In my case it gives me a better control over the cursor/crosshair, thus helping me to aim better in fps. But we don't really know the size of this thing, so we're just speculating at this point.

lol why do you think I'm mad? oO It's just that I'm really surprised at how strangely some hold their mice or think "Having your fingers crippled to that location is impossible, let alone not ergonomic, unless your Spock or something." when it's actually exactly below the side buttons, therefore the spot where the creators felt most people would keep their fingers wink.gif.

And I know what a claw grip is. I just can't see how people can claw the mouse at the very front (like marked in the picture of the Recon). From the videos of this mouse you can clearly see that this is a "normal" sized mouse, pretty much like the Xai/Sensei etc. If I grip my Xai at the front I'd have my palm on the middle of the mouse, couldn't use the scroll wheel and my other fingers would be on the mousepad unless I bend them inwards (!) to reach the left and right mousebuttons biggrin.gif. So at least you can understand my skepticism by seeing how extreme this position is using my hand and the Xai.

Besides the picture from Razer about the claw grip is pretty strange too. The Lachesis is a lot bigger in relation than shown in this pic... it really is not such a small mouse. Actually it is longer than both the Xai and even the Deathadder. If I claw grip the Lachesis my palm would be on the back of it, my thumb on the middle of the front thumb button and my index and middle finger would land at the very front of the left and right MB. In case of the Recon the shape where the front thumb button is, is still /__\ and that continues for another maybe 5 to 10mm.
post #22 of 364
Wth is going on with this thing? announced 6 months ago and still not available or even with a release date?

im impatientttttttt
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post #23 of 364
According to the facebook representative i spoke with the ETA is August. Exciting. Maybe this thing will retire my deathadder/abyssus.

I certainly have gained a great deal of respect for CM as a company with Carter on these forums. Their willingness to recognize issues and talk about them and try to correct them puts them miles ahead of any competitor on the market today as far as I'm concerned.

Hopefully this mouse will be awesomesauce.

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post #24 of 364
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Originally Posted by viowastaken View Post

According to the facebook representative i spoke with the ETA is August. Exciting. Maybe this thing will retire my deathadder/abyssus.
I certainly have gained a great deal of respect for CM as a company with Carter on these forums. Their willingness to recognize issues and talk about them and try to correct them puts them miles ahead of any competitor on the market today as far as I'm concerned.
Hopefully this mouse will be awesomesauce.
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Dont mean to ruin it for you, but CM gotta need alot of time to work about thier software's programing and coding abillities to make this mouse decent, or either Spawn.
Edited by avinin1 - 5/22/12 at 6:46am
post #25 of 364
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Originally Posted by avinin1 View Post

Dont mean to ruin it for you, but CM gotta need alot of time to work about thier software's programing and coding abillities to make this mouse decent, or either Spawn.

I don't know if that's true or not, but what is certain is that simply recognizing the problem and attempting to solve it is much more than one can say for companies such as steelseries who currently don't have a single mouse without serious flaws in their entire lineup.
post #26 of 364
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Originally Posted by viowastaken View Post

I don't know if that's true or not, but what is certain is that simply recognizing the problem and attempting to solve it is much more than one can say for companies such as steelseries who currently don't have a single mouse without serious flaws in their entire lineup.
Never said they aren't.
post #27 of 364
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Originally Posted by avinin1 View Post

Never said they aren't.
never said you said they weren't
post #28 of 364
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

It's a 3090 labeled IC and firmware set. The hardware "3060/3080/3090" + custom variants "3888/3095" are pretty similar. MCU, firmware, and specific sensor releated hardware choices tend to dictate actual performance. smile.gif
The AM performs decently, but I personally believe that it could have been "better" at the cost of lift off distance. biggrin.gif
On topic, the Recon looks like a cool little mouse.

IMO Zowie pulled off the best result with the 3090 atm. I tried my Spawn again and yeah it can track at faster speeds but it feels alot less accurate for some reason. Though I do agree, sacrificing perhaps 1 mm for more raw performance would've been nice on the Zowie AM.

Might be interested in this new CM mouse if it outperforms the Zowie AM.
Edited by CorruptBE - 5/22/12 at 9:36am
post #29 of 364
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

IMO Zowie pulled off the best result with the 3090 atm. I tried my Spawn again and yeah it can track at faster speeds but it feels alot less accurate for some reason. Though I do agree, sacrificing perhaps 1 mm for more raw performance would've been nice on the Zowie AM.
Might be interested in this new CM mouse if it outperforms the Zowie AM.

IMHO i think the deathadder is miles ahead considering the more extensive software DPI customization and function there of. The AM has only really two flawless steps which are both wierd ones. 450 to 1150? really? and the only way to adjust beyond that is if the game you play happens to have proper sens scaling.
That is a monumental flaw.

The only real potnetial bonus the AM has over the deathadder is liftoff distance. This personally isn't an issue for me, and even if it was I'd still give the nod to razers work with the 3090.
post #30 of 364
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

IMO Zowie pulled off the best result with the 3090 atm. I tried my Spawn again and yeah it can track at faster speeds but it feels alot less accurate for some reason. Though I do agree, sacrificing perhaps 1 mm for more raw performance would've been nice on the Zowie AM.
Might be interested in this new CM mouse if it outperforms the Zowie AM.

I'm partial to agree from one stand point. Zowie's SROM/firmware combo is put together pretty well (even has less apparent angle snapping). I know i'm not Zowie's target audience, or rather anyones.. but it's a double edge sword effect based on preferences.

In which case Zowie is trading cursor precision and IPS for an OEM (most likely cheaper) lens solution that only really works at lowering lift off distance on darker surface.

My gripe: there are other means and possibilities over using a custom lens.


@ Spawn. The firmware is still a lil buggy, but its a lot better than what it was prior. The good thing about the actual hardware is that CM has the ability to continue updating and supporting the mouse while Zowie didn't have the proper circuitry implemented for flash over USB. Ultimately this means theres rather unlimited possibility as long as CM is willing.

@ recon. It will most likely utilize the same controller and firmware as the spawn unless they're willing to increase cost to fund a separate firmware. (Doubt)


tl;dr I suppose I'm too critical for anyones marketing campaign at this point.
Edited by Skylit - 5/22/12 at 4:24pm
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