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ASUS Sabertooth 990FX - No Optical Drive - Installing Windows 7 - RAID 0 / 1+0

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I have a bit of a situation. So I am looking to enlist the forums here to help devise a solution to my woes. Newly ordered hardware first upgrade in 4 years.. I want to get it over with and get to the good stuff. sadsmiley.gif

These are the devices / tools at my disposal.

Storage Media
16 GB USB Drive - Windows 7 DVD - Currently won't boot since enabling RAID
DVD Writable - Windows 7 DVD

PATA
160 GB - Computer A
DVD Optical Drive

SATA
HDD - 160 GB - Computer B
HDD - 320 GB - Computer A
HDD - 750x2 GB - Computer B [RAID 0]
HDD - 40 GB - Computer B [Free Space not total]
SSD - 32 GB - Computer B / A (Easily swappable) - Also this one is currently set to RAID Ready Mode


Motherboards
ASUS - Sabertooth 990FX ~ Phenom X6 1100T
6 SATA
0 PATA

Biostar - TF560 A2+ ~ Athlon X2 6000+
4 SATA
1 PATA

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If anybody wants to know about any other hardware I may have, just ask and I will let you know whatever else I have.

I am not looking for buy this or that solutions; don't bother posting.


For anybody who has noticed from the stuff I have, their is a pretty obvious problem. My new motherboard doesn't support the optical drive I have. In a month or two I will buy a blu-ray drive, but that is in a month or two.

This means that I will be unable to use the Windows 7 DVD with the SSD connected to the new hardware. If I can fix my USB drive then voila, install from it.. however it seems to have stopped working when I enabled RAID.

I currently have Windows 7 installed on two hard drives but neither will boot anymore, also since having enabled RAID.

My main problems I need help with are ensuring that I have RAID configured properly and that I need to install Windows 7 in a difficult fashion. This is what I am working towards..

My OS booting from a SSD.. my program files and users directories being hard or symbollically linked to the HDDs in RAID 0. Eventually when I finish upgrading I will want my HDDs in RAID 10 or 01 whatever is better, I don't really understand the difference.

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So my questions to you are this.

1.) How do I need my RAID configurations setup to install Windows 7 x64 and not have to worry from there on out. Since my RAID configuration for other drives will be changing.

2.) What is RAID Ready Mode used for? What is it?

3.) How can I successfully install a bootable copy of Windows 7 x64 onto my SSD and my 160 GB SATA HDD. (I need two so that I can create the links to the RAID pair)

4.) Should I be asking any other questions?
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Ok, first things first. Is there currently any operating system installed on your SSD? If the answer is yes, you're going to need to do a secure erase to wipe it clean before attempting to install an OS on it with the Sabertooth MB.

Once you do that, and have your other drives installed, you can set the motherboard to boot from the USB in the BIOS options (you may need to go to the advanced view for this, I can't recall off the top of my head) and install windows. I recommend making keeping your SATA ports in AHCI mode rather than RAID.

For putting your drives in RAID, I recommend using software RAID within Windows once it is installed.

I also don't quite understand what you mean in question 3 about installing windows to the SSD and the 160GB so you can create links to the RAID pair.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_link

I can't remember if it is a hard or symbolic link that I would need, but windows 7 supports it.
run> cmd
mklink you will see the options available

I don't understand junctions so don't look at me for an explanation for those.
However the links basically are just that, they link to somewhere else. It is like logical or dynamic drives or whatever that you have mounted in another drive as a directory.

Everybody I have every heard talking about performance says that software RAID is the most absurd thing in the world, in the bad way. My best friend is adamant about using hardware RAID especially opposed to Windows. Can you disprove this or tell me why you suggest using it?


Edit: Yes I currently have a non booting installation on my SSD. I am fine with reinstalling, but I would prefer to repair. I tried following a WinPE 3.0 install guide for USB but instead messed it up and decided it would be easier to install the installation iso onto the USB. Now even that won't boot, it has some error on the boot loader screen.
Edited by Sagenth - 1/22/12 at 1:25pm
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So I don't know what went wrong with my USB Drive it was showing a boot/bcd error and some static hex address.

This is the process I have taken.

Used my second computer and reloaded the USB flash drive with the Windows USB/DVD download tool. Installed the windows 7 x64 installation iso onto the drive and popped it into the other computer.
I deleted my RAID arrays/definitions.
I created my RAID 1 pair and rebooted.
I booted into my USB drive successfully

I loaded the RAID drivers and selected the SSD Drive
I found that I couldn't install windows 7 x64 onto my SSD still.
The windows 7 installation would hang. I loaded the RAID drivers properly the drives were visible.
I selected the drive and clicked new and it hung.
I rebooted and went through everything again and it showed the 100MB partition.
I selected the unallocated part of the drive and clicked format it hung.

couldn't find any answers by searching google.. thus why I am outlining the issues I had.
I am sure this will be helpful to somebody somewhere at some point.
This morning..
I went back into the RAID Utility
I defined a new LD
I took the SSD and gave it the assignment "RAID Ready"
I rebooted into the USB Drive again

I went through as before and it worked, it didn't hang for even a moment.
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