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Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post

So you feel that people are entitled to use and possess, for free, material that someone spent time and money to make?
Musical artists sold albums pretty well for a long time before online file-sharing became popular and people justified it as "free advertising" for artists. That argument is bogus and entirely unfounded and illogical for a bulk of the consumers and producers.

http://torrentfreak.com/pirates-are-the-music-industrys-most-valuable-customers-100122/
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Compared to music buyers, music sharers (pirates) are…

* 31% more likely to buy single tracks online.
* 33% more likely to buy music albums online.
* 100% more likely to pay for music subscription services.
* 60% more likely to pay for music on mobile phone.

These figures (as reported by the music industry) clearly show that file-sharers buy more digital music than the average music buyer. In fact, the group that makes up the music buyers category actually includes the buying file-sharers, so the difference between music sharers and non-sharing music buyers would be even more pronounced.
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post #132 of 249
If they take down MediaFire, I'mma go set the RIAA on fire.

The government should have to pay restitution to every single person who paid for an account.
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If they take down MediaFire, I'mma go set the RIAA on fire.
The government should have to pay restitution to every single person who paid for an account.

That won't happen because "all" people who use file sharing sites pirate things.
    
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On the other news, Chris Dodd threatened politicians who stands in MPAA or RIAA's way, on public.

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"Those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake. Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake,"

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120120/14472117492/mpaa-directly-publicly-threatens-politicians-who-arent-corrupt-enough-to-stay-bought.shtml
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So you feel that people are entitled to use and possess, for free, material that someone spent time and money to make?
Musical artists sold albums pretty well for a long time before online file-sharing became popular and people justified it as "free advertising" for artists. That argument is bogus and entirely unfounded and illogical for a bulk of the consumers and producers.

http://torrentfreak.com/pirates-are-the-music-industrys-most-valuable-customers-100122/
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Compared to music buyers, music sharers (pirates) are…

* 31% more likely to buy single tracks online.
* 33% more likely to buy music albums online.
* 100% more likely to pay for music subscription services.
* 60% more likely to pay for music on mobile phone.

These figures (as reported by the music industry) clearly show that file-sharers buy more digital music than the average music buyer. In fact, the group that makes up the music buyers category actually includes the buying file-sharers, so the difference between music sharers and non-sharing music buyers would be even more pronounced.

I definitely agree with the mindset of that study (pirates spend more on entertainment media than anyone else) but I do question the validity of their statistics. When you buy a track you're not asked if you're a pirate, so how do they reach these statistics?
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Yea this really sucks. I just renewed my 3 month sub like 6 days ago. Sigh, there goes $35 down the drain mad.gif

If you paid via paypal you can dispute the transaction, if credit card call them up and tell them to do a charge back. They sold you something under false pretenses.

You know the fact that people use these services for "piracy" is irrelevant because these sites regularly respond to reported links and delete them.

There is more than enough legal enterprises that use these services. If a independent band wanted to release albums using filesonic and get rewards through the uploader program, whats the harm in that? Lots of legit businesses lost out here who were using filesonic, fileserve and all the rest. If they are legit businesses who do take measures to remove copyrighted material there should be no reason to do this.

If these companies don't re-enable filesharing their going to go out of business and other companies are going to just get all the left over business.
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After someone posted the chart of who gets what from a $1,000 worth of music sales, the best way to support a band you really like is to go to the concert(s). Most of there money is made from tours and clothing, gear etc.

Also, LOL at Dodd, If you cant be bought i won't lobby for you anymore rolleyes.gif
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Yet there's a contrasting/contradicting Swiss study published recently (I don't know the name of it off the top of my head) that shows that despite the overall amount of money spent by consumers on the entertainment industry remaining the same, those who use illegal file acquisition services to acquire copyrighted content ended up spending less on music purchases while spending more on purchasing video games(keeping the overall amount someone spends on entertainment as a whole the same, only re-distributed among video, video games, and music differently). So there's a great disparity in the information available, or the information as its presented. Unfortunately I can't read the story you posted right now (stupid work blocking torrentfreak...), but wherever those statistics you quoted are from, they contradict this other Swiss study that was from a month or two ago regarding how music "piraters" choose to spend their money on music purchases.
    
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Sweet, I and a lot of other people use these file hosting sites for legal files like phone ROMs and tons of other things but now a bunch of the links are broken. The people screaming "hurr durr everybody on them pirates!!1" need to shut up and realize you can't arrest the owners of a storage unit because some of the customers stored guns and drugs in their storage unit.
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On the other news, Chris Dodd threatened politicians who stands in MPAA or RIAA's way, on public.
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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120120/14472117492/mpaa-directly-publicly-threatens-politicians-who-arent-corrupt-enough-to-stay-bought.shtml

There's actually a petition on the Whitehouse.gov website titled WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Investigate Chris Dodd and the MPAA for bribery after he publicly admited to bribing politicans to pass legislation.

Created two days ago, and it has 21,068 signatures right now, with a target of 25,000 by February 20th 2012.

Says plenty.
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I definitely agree with the mindset of that study (pirates spend more on entertainment media than anyone else) but I do question the validity of their statistics. When you buy a track you're not asked if you're a pirate, so how do they reach these statistics?
I'm assuming that they did an anonymous survey questioning people about their sharing/buying habits.
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