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Fix piracy by addressing it instead of spreading misinformation and litigating people.
There doesn't seem to be a real discussion, just a whole lot of lawsuits.

why does everyone blame the developers and producers for all this stuff? Why aren't individuals held accountable for their actions? It's like saying car manufacturers and car thieves need to have a sit down to discuss what the car manufacturers can do differently in the eyes of the car thieves so there won't be as much car theft.

Not a great example, they DO that, though obviously not with car thieves. Cars have become harder to steal in the past decade. No one said developers need to discuss the issue with the pirates directly.

DRM only works in the case of multiplayer games so far. If developers can apply the same methods BF3 uses to authenticate their online players into the game as a whole to require authentication even for single player, it could be a win.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 1/25/12 at 7:21am
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post #232 of 249
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The problem is not the technology, it's how the business was run behind it.

and yet they are targeting the technology, not the business. see the problem? what they are doing right now is like trying to cure skin cancer with an acid bath
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Yes.

I wonder why that is...
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I wonder why that is...

My guess is they were normal people until they met in with The Pirate Bay crew lol Turned them into anti authoritarian monsters devil.gif
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why does everyone blame the developers and producers for all this stuff? Why aren't individuals held accountable for their actions? It's like saying car manufacturers and car thieves need to have a sit down to discuss what the car manufacturers can do differently in the eyes of the car thieves so there won't be as much car theft. People need to be held accountable for their actions, it's a conscious decision to pirate, and it's a conscious decision to host copyrighted material and do nothing about it. I'm tired of hearing the developers get blamed for everything

You're jumping the opposite direction, this is why I say there needs to be rational discussion with both parties willing to compromise. I'm not saying pirates are legally in the right, but I'm also certainly not saying that no blame needs to be leveled at the industry who has made minimal effort to remedy the situation beyond lobbying for backwards legislation. The laws don't work - the industry doesn't work - they don't match the people's desires and options. That isn't a problem with people as much as it is a problem with their OPTIONS.

The practice is so ubiquitous that it needs to be addressed legally (fairly), culturally and industrially. The industry needs to change its model. Period. Laws need to be revised to protect IP, and people need to take responsibility for their actions and not treat file sharing like a smash and grab on media. Continuing to say that the industry model is fine and that the internet is the problem, or that free media is a right and corporations need to go away are both stupid.

Both parties are stubborn and selfish, but the consequences are for everyone. Wish there were more rational perspectives on the plate.
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All the Judgement!
Megabox is what "seems" to be the perfect solution to all this piracy business. It's a shame he's indicted in a conspiracy/RICO/racketeering case.
Because you know, I'm just conspiring. I like that word, and I'm absolutely amazed that they have done this to the tvshack guy that was mentioned earlier in this thread, too.
There is no reason why laws made to catch mobsters should be used against a cyberlocker conglomerate.
Someone's got some high friends in some low places.
That petition for chriss dodd that was mentioned already has the needed "threshold". How much do you wanna bet that it's swept under the rug?
I'm skeptical of this entire situations, on both sides of the case. The gov'ment's fishy, and so is this dotcom guy, but the gov is defiantly more stank on this one.
Extraditing two seperate individuals for copywrite infringement cases that shouldn't be criminal and gumming up the justice machine even more than it is?
Color me Shockerfied.

Wrong way around; low friends in high places.
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On a related note: does borrowing a CD/DVD/game from a friend also count as piracy? From a legal point of view, it seems the same: you get the experience (ie: CD/movie/game) without paying for it.
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On a related note: does borrowing a CD/DVD/game from a friend also count as piracy? From a legal point of view, it seems the same: you get the experience (ie: CD/movie/game) without paying for it.

yes, in my limited understanding of the law and my personal opinion, it constitutes the same thing. But clearly I'm outnumbered in this thread and my view of the legal process is too "black and white" for some members, so I suppose take what I have to say with a grain of salt, or a truckload if you rather smile.gif
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On a related note: does borrowing a CD/DVD/game from a friend also count as piracy? From a legal point of view, it seems the same: you get the experience (ie: CD/movie/game) without paying for it.

I believe from a legal stand point this is OK because technically your friend retains ownership of the software license...they just don't physically have it. Kind of like how you can borrow your friends car, but the the registration and insurance still covers you to be on the road.

Just as long as the software isn't being used twice from one copy at the same time you are fine
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I believe from a legal stand point this is OK because technically your friend retains ownership of the software license...they just don't physically have it. Kind of like how you can borrow your friends car, but the the registration and insurance still covers you to be on the road.
Just as long as the software isn't being used twice from one copy at the same time you are fine

But then you have the issue of music - person A buys a CD, rips it to his media player, lends to person B who does the same.


Back on topic - a new service is already in the works, though this one is explicitly for piracy, with the tagline "Made by Pirates for Pirates" and apparently going to be based in Latvia.
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