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post #3971 of 5801
This the the way it works

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And the screws go through the fan and the case and make contact with the treads and tighten down them
 
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Now I need to figure out how to manage the cables off my fans and the Corsair Link USB cable for my H100i
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You don't need "proper water cooling" overclocking any processor. Most of those who use real water cooling also water cooler their GPUs as well. You can overclock on stock heat sinks if you wanted to, it wouldn't be wise but you could. You can overclock to any speed, it just depends on your cooler. I have the 100i and I'm at OC 4.4GHz but that's because I got a bad batch, others can get up to 5.0GHz on Corsair H100i but also you can get up to 5.0 on aftermarket air cooling as well. You can get a real water cooling if you wish, but it's not necessary, I personally think that they look stupid. I like a clean setup though and it just makes it look like crap. I have only liked a few but not enough to do water cooling to my own rig in the manner.
I forget what the stock fan direction was. Heat rises, so if you have enough proper positive air flow then it's best to have the front/bottom/side as intake and the back/top as exhaust. Better for my setup at least, I'm sure others will agree.
Awesome! What are you getting?

What are your temps?
post #3974 of 5801
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You don't need "proper water cooling" overclocking any processor. Most of those who use real water cooling also water cooler their GPUs as well. You can overclock on stock heat sinks if you wanted to, it wouldn't be wise but you could. You can overclock to any speed, it just depends on your cooler. I have the 100i and I'm at OC 4.4GHz but that's because I got a bad batch, others can get up to 5.0GHz on Corsair H100i but also you can get up to 5.0 on aftermarket air cooling as well. You can get a real water cooling if you wish, but it's not necessary, I personally think that they look stupid. I like a clean setup though and it just makes it look like crap. I have only liked a few but not enough to do water cooling to my own rig in the manner.
I forget what the stock fan direction was. Heat rises, so if you have enough proper positive air flow then it's best to have the front/bottom/side as intake and the back/top as exhaust. Better for my setup at least, I'm sure others will agree.
Awesome! What are you getting?

I have to very much disagree on this with you Dan. Yes you might be able to get to say 5Ghz on air. But you won't be able to do much more than boot up on it. And you will definitely not run any games are heavy apps. It is highly not recomended to ttry those types of overclocks on air. Watercooling is the next step up in exotic cooling for overclocking. As for closed loop coolers yes they are good for some cases. But also you can get a 5Ghz clock on an H100 but you will still have high temps. And you gotta remember the higher the temps the shorter the life span of your chips. I have tried air,closed loop and open loop systems. And there is nothing like a full custom loop if you want to seriously overclock and run heavy load apps 24/7. I have my 2700k at 4.9Ghz with 16Gb of Avexir 2000Mhz Core series ram clocked to 2133 and my 7970 at 1200 core 1600 memory. And my temp while folding 24/7 which is the heaviest load you will put on a rig never go over 60-62 degrees. And my gpu never goes over 52 degrees no matter what I do. There is no way that any closed loop would give me that type of performance and those temps running 24/7 for months at a time. As for the look I also like a clean looking build. But your loop only looks as clean as you make it. I have 3 rads in my loop and 2 blocks right now. And my rig doesn't look as messy as say a build with a h100 on the cpu and another closed loop on athe gpu. It is definitely not all about looks when you go into water cooling. But with that said I also think that if your not gonna push your rig hard there is really no need to spend the amount of money that a good custom loop costs.

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post #3975 of 5801
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I have to very much disagree on this with you Dan. Yes you might be able to get to say 5Ghz on air. But you won't be able to do much more than boot up on it. And you will definitely not run any games are heavy apps. It is highly not recomended to ttry those types of overclocks on air. Watercooling is the next step up in exotic cooling for overclocking. As for closed loop coolers yes they are good for some cases. But also you can get a 5Ghz clock on an H100 but you will still have high temps. And you gotta remember the higher the temps the shorter the life span of your chips. I have tried air,closed loop and open loop systems. And there is nothing like a full custom loop if you want to seriously overclock and run heavy load apps 24/7. I have my 2700k at 4.9Ghz with 16Gb of Avexir 2000Mhz Core series ram clocked to 2133 and my 7970 at 1200 core 1600 memory. And my temp while folding 24/7 which is the heaviest load you will put on a rig never go over 60-62 degrees. And my gpu never goes over 52 degrees no matter what I do. There is no way that any closed loop would give me that type of performance and those temps running 24/7 for months at a time. As for the look I also like a clean looking build. But your loop only looks as clean as you make it. I have 3 rads in my loop and 2 blocks right now. And my rig doesn't look as messy as say a build with a h100 on the cpu and another closed loop on athe gpu. It is definitely not all about looks when you go into water cooling. But with that said I also think that if your not gonna push your rig hard there is really no need to spend the amount of money that a good custom loop costs.

It's okay and I know xD, I guess I didn't explain that very well into more detail as I should have poke.gif. Thanks for doing that for me Chino, I honestly don't know why I didn't go into that explanation more, bothers me that I would say things but forget to explain. Ah!

lolz Anyways, Thank You
post #3976 of 5801
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What are your temps?
Averages on Ambient Temps of 68f/20c or so [not official because of some variable, I am going to buy a digital thermostat someday to be more accurate]
Idle 24c
Light Load [browsing internet, small apps]: 29c
Medium Load [certain converting apps and such while also light load]: 35c
High Load [gaming]: don't know, I don't have a GPU to give you that.
Prime95 [stress testing]: 76c


I keep forgetting to multi-quote.
post #3977 of 5801
Hi guys, I bought a phantom 410 for my first computer build, I was just wondering with people with the corsair water coolers on the top of their cases, I was wondering do you have the fans pushing away from the radiator (Towards the cpu) or pulling the air towards the radiator?
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Hi guys, I bought a phantom 410 for my first computer build, I was just wondering with people with the corsair water coolers on the top of their cases, I was wondering do you have the fans pushing away from the radiator (Towards the cpu) or pulling the air towards the radiator?

Towards the radiator, you want to use your fans as exhaust, not intake, heat rises. thumbsupsmiley.png

I sent you a PM because I didn't want to spam the thread with more pictures of my setup xD
Edited by iwalkwithedead - 1/12/13 at 12:47pm
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The GPU that I have settled on for now is MSI R7870 HAWK Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB it not only matches my scheme but does what I want it to do for the moment and just play games! I'm really tired of not being able to play games, I want to shoot people! sniper.gif BF2, BF3, COD! So that the word people, please just accept the card, you can't change my mind. It's perfect to do what I need it to do for the moment, in the future when I can upgrade I will upgrade of course. That is after I get a new TV/Monitor. The reason I settled for 7870 is because it does what I need it to do, plays the games I need it to play at a decent frame rate. I have been a console gamer all my life so 60FPS is fine with me and the TV that I am using as a Monitor is a Emerson 32" 720P, so if I got a better card now I would also have to buy a new TV as well to so the graphics don't go to waste, do you see where I'm getting at?

sniper.gif Man down!

Of course I will always appreciated you input, ideas and conversations I just want to let you all know what's going on xD
I shall soon rise! [In 2-3 months sadly]

Thanks of course also to iamapropos, he's my GPU guru.
Why not GTX 660 TI Power Edition biggrin.gif
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Why not GTX 660 TI Power Edition biggrin.gif

1] Expensive
2] Tired of waiting, I just want to play games
3] I still have to get a new HDD, Headset, 360 controller, at least 1 SSD and a mouse pad xD

It's all a long process to explain but it's easier just to tell you that it's a chain reaction, I need 1 before another is worth having and I'm honestly tired of having a gaming computer without a GPU. It's been almost 3 months now since I built this beast and want to play asap. I can cheap out on the said GPU a tad because I can just sell and upgrade it when I get a job.

HDD: Western Digital, 1TB, Blue
SSD: Samsung, 64GBx2, Raid0
Headset: Still searching, possible so far: Corsair Vengeance 2000
Edited by iwalkwithedead - 1/13/13 at 8:12am
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