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Poll Results: [NEW POLL] What Color do you have/will you get?

 
  • 24% (164)
    White
  • 9% (65)
    Red
  • 20% (134)
    Black
  • 5% (34)
    SE White/Blue
  • 3% (21)
    SE Black/White
  • 9% (65)
    SE Black/Orange
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    SE Gunmetal
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post #5421 of 5801
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Originally Posted by Xenshi View Post

Sorry that's my bad, hope I didn't offend. It's a bad habit I've developed. I know when I talk to my friends I generically say man or dude and no one has ever pulled me up on it.

What LED kit is it? I'm not a big fan of the soft cables most use around the inside. It's funny looking at your username because I briefly considered buying a blue/white phantom and creating a little R2D2. Unless I got the reference wrong as well! rolleyes.giftongue.gif

No problem. I usual get this when hunting in men's "territory" biggrin.gif Nothing to worry about. I guess you guys aren't that comfortabe with a girl who knows more then turn on/off with computers lel

LED/CFL are these. Nothing special. Revoltec twinset. Can be picked up for less. http://www.amazon.de/dp/B006W9TZP4 I had no problems with these cables, just they where a bit short. I still don't get the soft cable thing? With proper cablemanagment nobody will see this. Reference was right, childhood stuff.
post #5422 of 5801
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Originally Posted by c3p0c3p0 View Post

No problem. I usual get this when hunting in men's "territory" biggrin.gif Nothing to worry about. I guess you guys aren't that comfortabe with a girl who knows more then turn on/off with computers lel

LED/CFL are these. Nothing special. Revoltec twinset. Can be picked up for less. http://www.amazon.de/dp/B006W9TZP4 I had no problems with these cables, just they where a bit short. I still don't get the soft cable thing? With proper cablemanagment nobody will see this. Reference was right, childhood stuff.

Nah it ain't like that at all. I have absolutely no issue with women knowing more about something than me. And nothing to me is "men's [only] territory" rolleyes.gif. As far as I'm concerned with people, if you have the know how and the skill you're in, doesn't matter who you are or where you're from.

Thanks for the link. I don't want my cables to be seen, I'm planning to run one along the top edge behind where the side panel with the window is to try illuminating the interior. It might be too bright though. I've never used LED's in a PC before so have no idea how it will look. I think having them all the way around would be overkill. I am also thinking of reducing the planned number of LED fans I was going to get for fear of overkill. Baby steps as they say. biggrin.gif
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Intel Core i5 4670K Gigabyte z87x oc XFX R9 270X G.Skill Ares 
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Corsair Hydro H100i Cougar Vortex PWM 120mm CF-V12HP Asus 24" 1080p CoolerMaster Vanguard V1000 
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NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Black/Orange Asus Orion Pro Gaming Headset 
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CoolingCoolingMonitorPower
Corsair Hydro H100i Cougar Vortex PWM 120mm CF-V12HP Asus 24" 1080p CoolerMaster Vanguard V1000 
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NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Black/Orange Asus Orion Pro Gaming Headset 
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post #5423 of 5801
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Originally Posted by c3p0c3p0 View Post

Man? I'm a b*tch lady , sorry for confusion. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

How you dooin'?! wink.gif j/k





Anyway, anyone know what voltage the inbuilt fan controller runs fans at in it's different modes? My power monitor indicates about a 9v difference being pulled from the wall when it's changed from low to high. Although how accurate said power monitor is is another story. Presumably full tilt is 12v anyway?
post #5424 of 5801
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Originally Posted by Brian18741 View Post

How you dooin'?! wink.gif j/k
Are you old, rich and on a heartissue? tongue.gif j/k -taken-
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Originally Posted by Brian18741 View Post

Anyway, anyone know what voltage the inbuilt fan controller runs fans at in it's different modes? My power monitor indicates about a 9v difference being pulled from the wall when it's changed from low to high. Although how accurate said power monitor is is another story. Presumably full tilt is 12v anyway?

5v/9v/12v from the inbuild but wouldn't use it. Mine just started makeing a buzzing noise in the middle position after a week what's annoying. By some research this seems a common problem on the 410's
Edited by c3p0c3p0 - 3/21/14 at 2:16pm
post #5425 of 5801
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Originally Posted by Xenshi View Post

Nice man. I like the LED along the top and the orange sleeves thumb.gif I also noticed within a couple of minutes the dust had attracted to the case, as well as my finger prints. I'm not going to bother cleaning it until the thing is set up, stable and can be left mostly untouched thereafter. tongue.gif
Man? I'm a b*tch lady , sorry for confusion. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) But let's keep the focus on the hardware rolleyes.gif Just bought BeQuiet DarkRock Pro3, hope my system will benefit from this. 35 C° Idle seems a bit high to me, even on an AMD Chipset. The top CFL/LED barely fits, but was worth it. Also there is a second one next to intake fan, but it points more inside the case. I expected to give some ambient on the intake mesh. But for now I'm too lazy to remove both 5,25 just for that small mod. Gonna let it as it is.


Welcome aboard, . . . .

Always nice to see more women in the group.

While I've never been able to find an affinity for Halloween builds, that one is nice and clean. . . thumb.gif


But hark,. . . . I believe I hear it pleading for a window mod. . . .

It's pleading louder now, can't you hear it . . .


Nice build,


Darlene
post #5426 of 5801
Darlene you may be able to answer this. I'm planning a WC loop and need to control 8 rad fans. Can I use the inbuilt fan controller to control all fans connected to something like this fan splitter pcb so I can turn them up and down as required? I will have no 5.25" bays so a 3rd party fan controller won't work.


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Originally Posted by c3p0c3p0 View Post

Are you old, rich and on a heartissue? tongue.gif j/k -taken-
5v/9v/12v from the inbuild but wouldn't use it. Mine just started makeing a buzzing noise in the middle position after a week what's annoying. By some research this seems a common problem on the 410's

Yea mine made the same funny noise on the middle setting from day one. It was quite a common problem and NZXT were actually sending out free fan controller replacements if you up for a bit of soldering yourself as a result, but I never use the middle setting so didn't bother at the time. Dunno if they are still offering replacements.A lot of people on this very thread were getting them from a NZXT rep on this forum iirc.
Edited by Brian18741 - 3/21/14 at 3:48pm
post #5427 of 5801
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Originally Posted by Brian18741 View Post

Darlene you may be able to answer this. I'm planning a WC loop and need to control 8 rad fans. Can I use the inbuilt fan controller to control all fans connected to something like this fan splitter pcb so I can turn them up and down as required? I will have no 5.25" bays so a 3rd party fan controller won't work.
Yea mine made the same funny noise on the middle setting from day one. It was quite a common problem and NZXT were actually sending out free fan controller replacements if you up for a bit of soldering yourself as a result, but I never use the middle setting so didn't bother at the time. Dunno if they are still offering replacements.A lot of people on this very thread were getting them from a NZXT rep on this forum iirc.

Not Darlene, but I think using the MMT splitters might complicate things unnecessarily (because it's a male 3-pin input).

I would say just use one or two regular cable splitters, and you should be able to get all 8 fans on the controller, provided they don't pull too much power.
post #5428 of 5801
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Originally Posted by Brian18741 View Post

Darlene you may be able to answer this. I'm planning a WC loop and need to control 8 rad fans. Can I use the inbuilt fan controller to control all fans connected to something like this fan splitter pcb so I can turn them up and down as required? I will have no 5.25" bays so a 3rd party fan controller won't work.
Yea mine made the same funny noise on the middle setting from day one. It was quite a common problem and NZXT were actually sending out free fan controller replacements if you up for a bit of soldering yourself as a result, but I never use the middle setting so didn't bother at the time. Dunno if they are still offering replacements.A lot of people on this very thread were getting them from a NZXT rep on this forum iirc.

Not Darlene, but I think using the MMT splitters might complicate things unnecessarily (because it's a male 3-pin input).

I would say just use one or two regular cable splitters, and you should be able to get all 8 fans on the controller, provided they don't pull too much power.


Generally speaking, I wouldn't trust the stock fan controllers to run the crappy stock fans for more than the first week of use . . . .

After that, if it lasted that long, it's all down hill.

Truly, the 410 was the super econo version of the phantom, and they made some real consolations to manage the $99 price point.

If you need to run 8 fans, and don't have bay space for a fan controller, the only practical option is to use PWM fans, with a PWM splitter like the Swiftech that takes 12V power from the PSU, and uses the PWM signal from the mobo's CPU fan header for control.

Use e-loops or noiseblockers, not the Corsair PWM versions.


Darlene
post #5429 of 5801
Thanks guys.

I was thinking about running then PWM with that very same Swiftech splitter believe it or not. I was asking about it in WC forum here but the thread got side tracked by flow rates and waterblock resistance etc!

The loop will be cooling the CPU and 2 GPUs. Will running the fans off the CPU be efficient? In that the GPUs could be under a lot of load while the CPU is not thereby the fans will not spin up so much? Also any danger in having that splitter connected to MB fan header in terms of burning it out from drawing too much power or will it pull all it's power form the PSU?

The origional plan was to have the 8 rad fans on the swiftech pcb and two case fans just on the fan controller.

Finally, I was looking at SP120's but you don't recommend them? I had looked at e-loops but there was evidence that they don't wok in pull config as the fan blades stick out too much and would be grinding off the rad!
post #5430 of 5801
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Originally Posted by Brian18741 View Post

Thanks guys.

I was thinking about running then PWM with that very same Swiftech splitter believe it or not. I was asking about it in WC forum here but the thread got side tracked by flow rates and waterblock resistance etc!

The loop will be cooling the CPU and 2 GPUs. Will running the fans off the CPU be efficient? In that the GPUs could be under a lot of load while the CPU is not thereby the fans will not spin up so much? Also any danger in having that splitter connected to MB fan header in terms of burning it out from drawing too much power or will it pull all it's power form the PSU?

The origional plan was to have the 8 rad fans on the swiftech pcb and two case fans just on the fan controller.

Finally, I was looking at SP120's but you don't recommend them? I had looked at e-loops but there was evidence that they don't wok in pull config as the fan blades stick out too much and would be grinding off the rad!


The best way to control the fan speed is by the delta between ambient air and the coolant temp, but the only controller that can do that is the Aquaero, which has a very powerful software, Aquasuite, that does some great stuff.

Realistically, you probably won't find many situations where the GPU's are heavily loaded with the CPU just coasting.

You have to go with the best alternative that meshes with what you have available to work with.


The reason not to use the corsairs, is that they do not conform to the Intel PWM standard, and once you have more than a few of them on a mobo CPU header, they loose lower speed control, and with enough of them, they just ran at max no matter what the pulse width percentage is.

They have the same issue when controlled from the new PWM capable Aquaero 6 controller, without an add-on PCB to solve the issue.

With the Swiftech splitter, all the 12V power to the fans comes from the PSU, so there's no real load on the CPU header.


Darlene
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