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post #5441 of 5801
Yeah mang, AMD cards went crazy with them prices. The thing I don't like about 290 and 290X is that, memory is kind of low. 5000mhz..? Let's look @ 780 and 780 Ti 6000 & 7000mhz and even on stock voltage my 780 Ti gets up to 8300-8400mhz. That's kind of important for a GPU, you know? Even a 770 comes 7000mhz stock which is pretty nice! It's a good thing you're going for more vram because 2GB wasn't cutting it for me already in few games but it also depends what kind of resolution you play on. Either way 3-4GB of vram is nice to have (even just in case).
I'm sure, you won't be waiting that long. AMD cards already dropped their prices A LOT! But I'm just saying, if you do get a 770, you won't regret it! As far as 770s go, I'd recommend anyone of these EVGA, MSI or Gigabyte (all three seem very solid). I personally only owned EVGA GPUs throughout many, many, many years! I've never had any problems with EVGA GPUs and their customer service is the best! I also have a friend that owns a 280X and he likes it, he got it pretty much when it came out and it's been running solid ever since. I forgot what brand it is though. I hope, you find that one good sale that, you're looking for mang!
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post #5442 of 5801
Hey folks, a question for the Phantom owners out there. Building a rig for my son, who initially wanted a Cooler Master Storm Enforcer case, but they're nowhere to be found (apart from a massively over the top premium) so after looking at other options, will be going with the Phantom. But am now trying to decide between the 410 and the 530.

His room is a bit crowded, and not exactly tidy, so space is a bit of a concern for a full tower. And we're not going to be cramming much in there - just the one graphics card (GTX760 or 770), a H100i cooler (which I see will fit) and an SSD boot drive with one or two hard drives for storage. So by all accounts, it looks like the 410 will do the job but… just seen so many people raving about the 530, and even a few 410 owners saying they wish they'd have waited until the 530 came out. And am a bit concerned by how narrow the 410 is - an inch less than my own Corsair 600T, so would assume cable routing would be a pain in the backside?

Anyone have any opinions or thoughts between the two, I'd appreciate it.
post #5443 of 5801
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Originally Posted by ubermick View Post

Hey folks, a question for the Phantom owners out there. Building a rig for my son, who initially wanted a Cooler Master Storm Enforcer case, but they're nowhere to be found (apart from a massively over the top premium) so after looking at other options, will be going with the Phantom. But am now trying to decide between the 410 and the 530.

His room is a bit crowded, and not exactly tidy, so space is a bit of a concern for a full tower. And we're not going to be cramming much in there - just the one graphics card (GTX760 or 770), a H100i cooler (which I see will fit) and an SSD boot drive with one or two hard drives for storage. So by all accounts, it looks like the 410 will do the job but… just seen so many people raving about the 530, and even a few 410 owners saying they wish they'd have waited until the 530 came out. And am a bit concerned by how narrow the 410 is - an inch less than my own Corsair 600T, so would assume cable routing would be a pain in the backside?

Anyone have any opinions or thoughts between the two, I'd appreciate it.

For what you describe the 410 would be more than sufficient. Cable routing is good on the 410 and a nice clean look is highly achievable. Also have a look at the H440, really nice case.
Edited by Ghost12 - 3/24/14 at 11:43am
post #5444 of 5801
Hiya Ghost - I did indeed look at the H440 - beautiful case (love the way the power supply is shrouded) but seems to be backordered everywhere, and the lad wants a BD-ROM drive in there, which the H440 doesn't support.
post #5445 of 5801
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Originally Posted by ubermick View Post

Hey folks, a question for the Phantom owners out there. Building a rig for my son, who initially wanted a Cooler Master Storm Enforcer case, but they're nowhere to be found (apart from a massively over the top premium) so after looking at other options, will be going with the Phantom. But am now trying to decide between the 410 and the 530.

His room is a bit crowded, and not exactly tidy, so space is a bit of a concern for a full tower. And we're not going to be cramming much in there - just the one graphics card (GTX760 or 770), a H100i cooler (which I see will fit) and an SSD boot drive with one or two hard drives for storage. So by all accounts, it looks like the 410 will do the job but… just seen so many people raving about the 530, and even a few 410 owners saying they wish they'd have waited until the 530 came out. And am a bit concerned by how narrow the 410 is - an inch less than my own Corsair 600T, so would assume cable routing would be a pain in the backside?

Anyone have any opinions or thoughts between the two, I'd appreciate it.

So from what I read what you want to put in there the 410 is just the right size. The 530 seems a bit to big for that components. (What was my first thought on the choose between the 530 and the 410) For single dualrad and 2 drives the 410 is just right. The 530 goes more to big tower while the 410 still is bigger midi size tower. Maybe the 530 is more futureproof with rad options and fans but the 410 gets the job done too. It really depends if you going to invest into more stuff later.

Cable managment is no problem on the 410. It has around 2 inches? (2,5 centimeters) space behind the mb tray. Just the 24 pin needs to be a bit flexed but not a real issue with it. (The 410 is my second rig so blame me as a bloody newbie with cable managment confused.gif) The door was closed at the end and it wasn't that fugly. So grats on the 410 surviving me..

With both you won't be disappointed. Solid cases.
post #5446 of 5801
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Originally Posted by ubermick View Post

Hey folks, a question for the Phantom owners out there. Building a rig for my son, who initially wanted a Cooler Master Storm Enforcer case, but they're nowhere to be found (apart from a massively over the top premium) so after looking at other options, will be going with the Phantom. But am now trying to decide between the 410 and the 530.

His room is a bit crowded, and not exactly tidy, so space is a bit of a concern for a full tower. And we're not going to be cramming much in there - just the one graphics card (GTX760 or 770), a H100i cooler (which I see will fit) and an SSD boot drive with one or two hard drives for storage. So by all accounts, it looks like the 410 will do the job but… just seen so many people raving about the 530, and even a few 410 owners saying they wish they'd have waited until the 530 came out. And am a bit concerned by how narrow the 410 is - an inch less than my own Corsair 600T, so would assume cable routing would be a pain in the backside?

Anyone have any opinions or thoughts between the two, I'd appreciate it.


Something you might want to consider about the 410, is that it's effectively "Left Handed", in that while the window is on the same side as 99% of other PCs, the dang door opens the opposite way as you'd expect with the PC on your right, and it barely opens more than 90* which makes it a bit of a nuisance to use or see the bay devices if the computer is not on your left.

Also, the HDD's only come out the blind side, you have to uncable all of them to change one out.

The phantom slides the drives out the window side, so you only disconnect the one you want to pull out.


I'd suggest the regular phantom over the 410 any day and everyday. (just besides it being right handed)

The 410 made too many compromises to meet the $99 price point, and the 530 is no different in that respect.

The Phantom was the flagship case for a good while, and it's design and build quality reflect that.

While it's lacking in water cooling capabilities, since it came in the generation before the current boom in liquid cooling, that isn't a factor with your plan to use the H100.


Think about the ergonomics of the place you plan to put it before you go for the 410.


Darlene

I'm speaking here as some one who owns multiple phantoms, 630's 820's, 810, and 410, so I have experience to relate from.
Edited by IT Diva - 3/25/14 at 5:06am
post #5447 of 5801
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Originally Posted by Vici0us View Post

Yeah mang, AMD cards went crazy with them prices. The thing I don't like about 290 and 290X is that, memory is kind of low. 5000mhz..? Let's look @ 780 and 780 Ti 6000 & 7000mhz and even on stock voltage my 780 Ti gets up to 8300-8400mhz. That's kind of important for a GPU, you know? Even a 770 comes 7000mhz stock which is pretty nice! It's a good thing you're going for more vram because 2GB wasn't cutting it for me already in few games but it also depends what kind of resolution you play on. Either way 3-4GB of vram is nice to have (even just in case).
I'm sure, you won't be waiting that long. AMD cards already dropped their prices A LOT! But I'm just saying, if you do get a 770, you won't regret it! As far as 770s go, I'd recommend anyone of these EVGA, MSI or Gigabyte (all three seem very solid). I personally only owned EVGA GPUs throughout many, many, many years! I've never had any problems with EVGA GPUs and their customer service is the best! I also have a friend that owns a 280X and he likes it, he got it pretty much when it came out and it's been running solid ever since. I forgot what brand it is though. I hope, you find that one good sale that, you're looking for mang!

Just thought I'd let you know, I upped my budget and found myself making a difficult decision between the Sapphire Tri-X 290 and Gigabyte GHz Edition 780 and ultimately, I decided on the 780 because it was on a relatively decent discount and I love pretty much everything about the card from its construction and overclocking capabilities to its efficient power profile and low noise amount. Now I just feel a bit worried because I turned down a 4 GB card for its 3 GB competitor, but ultimately I wanted to downsample, find forcing AA/AF a bit easier with Nvidia cards, and, especially, got one of the best 780 models, apparently, for a competitive price. biggrin.gif
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post #5448 of 5801
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Just thought I'd let you know, I upped my budget and found myself making a difficult decision between the Sapphire Tri-X 290 and Gigabyte GHz Edition 780 and ultimately, I decided on the 780 because it was on a relatively decent discount and I love pretty much everything about the card from its construction and overclocking capabilities to its efficient power profile and low noise amount. Now I just feel a bit worried because I turned down a 4 GB card for its 3 GB competitor, but ultimately I wanted to downsample, find forcing AA/AF a bit easier with Nvidia cards, and, especially, got one of the best 780 models, apparently, for a competitive price. biggrin.gif

Did you get it cheaper than the $510 I see it at right now? Or at that price?

Just curious.
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Did you get it cheaper than the $510 I see it at right now? Or at that price?

Just curious.

I got it for $510. According to PCPartPicker, that's about the cheapest it's been. Not much of a "discount" really, I guess, but a reasonable price. tongue.gif
Edited by Serandur - 3/27/14 at 11:58pm
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post #5450 of 5801
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I got it for $510. According to PCPartPicker, that's about the cheapest it's been. Not much of a "discount" really, I guess, but a reasonable price. tongue.gif

Ok then. I'm sort of in the market for a 780 (might get 880).

How does the 780 GHz do compared to, say, the 780 DCII?
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