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post #5741 of 5747
Hello all, I am creating a build with the Phantom 410, and I was very curious about the H100i VS the H100i GTX. Which one will fit. If they both do, I will probably just buy the GTX since it is a better performance CPU Cooler. The H100i definitely fits, so I was really, really curious about if the H100i GTX will fit.
So, once again, here is what my computer is for:
  • Games, Video Editing with software such as Premier Pro, Schoolwork (Shouldn't be a problem), Streaming using like XSplit or OBS.
  • Games I play are like: World of Warcraft, Elder Scrolls Online, Dark Souls, CSGO, League, Osu!, Far Cry, Battlefield (Though I can't run BF4 or Hardline on my current PC D: )
  • I do alot of editing for Schoolwork on Premier Pro, so as long as the PC can handle having to render 20min videos with Computer Graphics, it's golden!
  • My budget was around $1,500 - $1,800, but $1,800 was the MAXIMUM extent I would go to. Hopefully I chose the right parts to try and cut down on cost, without losing performance as much.
  • I wanted this computer to be as forwards compatible as possible, maybe replacing the case and that's about it, kinda stuff. Keeping alot of the parts when newer parts come out.
  • I also need a Wireless connection.


Here is my (hopefully final) build parts:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dbfmzy

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($341.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM if it 03.99 @ Newegg) OR H100i GTX IF IT FITS I DUNNO YET
Motherboard: Asus Z87-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($120.87 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($352.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.81 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1559.54


Intro
I'm not so worried about the components anymore, as most of the hardware I picked were from countless feedback from LinusTechTip Uses and others, so I feed pretty confident it will be a kick a** computer to use. I'm more worried about cooling, and other things that may cause this build to not be as great.

Cooling
The 4 fans I am buying are for the front and side panel fans. Mounting 2 120mm fans on the front for intake, and the ones on the side panel, and the rear for Exhaust.

Airflow should kinda look like this:
http://imgur.com/LKlUJnw

For the Corsair H100i, I shouldn't have to buy 2 more fans for a more effective cooling correct? The two 120mm fans that come with the Radiator SHOULD work pretty well. If you think not, why would I need to get two more fans? Should I get the H100i GTX for better performance? I am worried it will not fit in the top of the NZXT 410 since the H100i GTX is 125mm x 276mm x 30mm where the regular H100i is 120mm x 275mm x 27mm. The H100i definitely fits, since I have seen many, many people do it, so I can safely say that that will fit. Its just a little larger, but I am worried it won't fit.

I called up support on this issue, and they said that they only support radiators up to 240mm. But BOTH the H100i and the H100i GTX are marketed as "240mm" radiators. But they are both actually larger in dimension, as shown above. Does the "Radiator Size" the support person was talking about not include the parts that juts out with the Water Pipes? Maybe that would make the difference with the marketed 240mm size, but have a dimension of the ones listed above? I dunno... Anyone out there know more than me about this topic?

Dust
I was also really wanting to keep this computer for a long time. So to help with some of the clean up, I decided to search around for dust filters. I found a site for complete custom filters for specific cases, so I am probably going to buy the Complete Dust Filter Kit. NZXT 410 Dust Filters I have a question: Do dust filters hinder or help the system? I feel like it may cause the fans to lose airflow inside the case. If anyone can help me understand, it will be greatly appreciated.

GPU and Fitting
Now, I do know that the GTX 970 will not fit unless I remove the extra drive bays, but personally, I am completely fine with that. I only have a SSD and a HDD, so using only the two drives at the bottom is fine. If you think otherwise, please feel free to explain.



Please If you have any questions, comments, or opinions, please feel free to provide feedback!

Thank you very much for your continued help and feedback!
Kaz
post #5742 of 5747
The H100i GTX should fit according to NZXT's compatibility checker (go to your case on the website and click the "check compatibility button").

A couple comments on the rest of your build though:

First of all, I'm super excited for you! I remember the pre-build feeling, and it is oh-so good.
The only thing I'd consider (emphasis on consider) if I were you would be going from a Z87 board to a Z97. With a processor as powerful and overclockable as the 4790k, you may want to go with the Z97 chipset to really get the most out of your rig. You can find some pretty good ones at the $120 price point that you've allocated for your mobo.

Secondly, I'd make the side fan intake and the top exhaust. But as long as you have positive pressure (more blowing in than out) you should be fine. Another good thing about positive pressure is how it limits dust build up.

Good luck with your build! Post pics when you're done smile.gif
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post #5743 of 5747
Quote:
Originally Posted by chipsterx View Post

The H100i GTX should fit according to NZXT's compatibility checker (go to your case on the website and click the "check compatibility button").

A couple comments on the rest of your build though:

First of all, I'm super excited for you! I remember the pre-build feeling, and it is oh-so good.
The only thing I'd consider (emphasis on consider) if I were you would be going from a Z87 board to a Z97. With a processor as powerful and overclockable as the 4790k, you may want to go with the Z97 chipset to really get the most out of your rig. You can find some pretty good ones at the $120 price point that you've allocated for your mobo.

Secondly, I'd make the side fan intake and the top exhaust. But as long as you have positive pressure (more blowing in than out) you should be fine. Another good thing about positive pressure is how it limits dust build up.

Good luck with your build! Post pics when you're done smile.gif

Thanks for the quick response!

I don't really plan on overclocking that much, so I didn't consider the Z97. The Z87 Pro also comes with a Wi-Fi feature, so I thought that was a nice extra to the board. The Z87 also comes with one-click overclocking features, and I believe is fully capable of the tiny amount of overclocking I MIGHT do in the future. I don't really want to Overclock until I get a hang of my build, and how everything is working. So I probably won't overclock ASAP. I'd have to learn more and more about it first.

The CPU Cooler should be an intake should it not? I don't know if I should have the CPU cooler as an exhaust, but I get where you are coming from. I was thinking to only get TWO fans instead of the 4 I have bought right now, and since they are Static Pressure fans, put them at the front of the case, have the CPU Cooler Intake, and the rear be exhaust. The 140mm fan on the top of the case will be moved to the side panel. The side panel will expend some of the GPU and PSU's heat, while not COMPLETELY interfering with the 2 front fans I have as intake. The rest of the air will go out the back exhaust fan.

That was my plan. I dunno if that will work of not though. As long as everything doesn't start overheating, I feel like that should be fine.
Edited by BlockyDigital - 7/22/15 at 5:08pm
post #5744 of 5747
Yes, cpu cooler should be intake. However, while the nzxt website says it is compatible, it doesn't say where. It may only fit in the top, so be prepared to re-arrange if need be. But yes, make the cpu cooler intake.

As for the side fan, looking at the gpu cooler more closely, it seems that the fans pull hot air away from the gpu and push it down. You may want to orient the side fan depending on where your video card ends up sitting. If your side fan is about even with the card, I'd make it an intake. If the fan is lower than the card, then maybe exhaust would be a better idea.
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G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM... Kingston V300 2.5" 120GB SATA III (SSD) Samsung DVD writer Swiftech H220x 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair AF-120 Quiet Edition x3 Windows 8.1 Pro - 64 bit Shimian 27" 1440p Enermax Revolution X't 630W 
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post #5745 of 5747
Quote:
Originally Posted by chipsterx View Post

Yes, cpu cooler should be intake. However, while the nzxt website says it is compatible, it doesn't say where. It may only fit in the top, so be prepared to re-arrange if need be. But yes, make the cpu cooler intake.

As for the side fan, looking at the gpu cooler more closely, it seems that the fans pull hot air away from the gpu and push it down. You may want to orient the side fan depending on where your video card ends up sitting. If your side fan is about even with the card, I'd make it an intake. If the fan is lower than the card, then maybe exhaust would be a better idea.

Thanks for the endless support!

Yea. The H100i GTX only fits on the top. I was just going to make it an intake. Radiator on top, and Fans pulling through the radiator inside the case. Looking at videos and stuff, the GPU seems right next to the Side fan, so I guess an exhaust will work perfectly.

Again, thanks for all the help man!
Kaz
post #5746 of 5747
Hey guys have anyone tried painting their case? Because my case has a lot of scratches and paint chips sadsmiley.gif
post #5747 of 5747
Yes, i actually had the same issue with scratches on my side panel. I went to walmart and got some black glossy spraypaint that i thought would match the rest of the case fairly well. Then i took the panel, removed the window(s), and sanded it to rough it up so the paint would stick. I didnt use any primer or anything, just be sure to apply it slowly and with multiple light coats. It worked out well for me. Then i decided to go ahead and do the space theme with the stars and stuff (see profile pic).

Painting this case is definitely doable. Some parts may be easier than others.
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RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM... Kingston V300 2.5" 120GB SATA III (SSD) Samsung DVD writer Swiftech H220x 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair AF-120 Quiet Edition x3 Windows 8.1 Pro - 64 bit Shimian 27" 1440p Enermax Revolution X't 630W 
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RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM... Kingston V300 2.5" 120GB SATA III (SSD) Samsung DVD writer Swiftech H220x 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Corsair AF-120 Quiet Edition x3 Windows 8.1 Pro - 64 bit Shimian 27" 1440p Enermax Revolution X't 630W 
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