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First solo build, 'rebuilding the Snail!' - help/advice appreciated (~$2000 budget)

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Hello, this is my first post here and I have not frequented the site much until recently, as I have been researching on building a new pc. A friend of mine recommended this site to me and browsing here has definitely helped educate me a lot so far. However after reading awhile here I still feel that I am quite ignorant compared to a lot of posters, so I would really appreciate any advice/recommendations concerning this build.

As for my situation, I'm thinking of taking out all the components of my current pc (which is in the PC777 case listed below) and putting all new in it, then buying a cheap case to put the 'old' components in (I really like the Snail case and would like to keep it if possible, and I don't want to let the old components go to waste).

I use my PC for a lot of music and definitely appreciate good audio quality - though I don't consider myself hardcore enough to be called an audiophile. My PC is in my living room and I currently have the Creative Gigaworks 7.1 system (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836116142) set up around the room, and I also like to do a good amount of gaming (Starcraft, FPS, NFS games). I also have a Viewsonic 27" monitor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116441) that I am very satisfied with, as well as mouse and keyboard.

I would like to purchase everything from Microcenter, and I am closest to the Denver, CO store. I have a flexible budget of around $2000. Here is a rough build I have put together:

Case:
LIAN LI Memorial 20th Anniversary PC-777A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112084 (owned)

CPU:
Core i7 2600K
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354587 $279.99

CPU cooling:
Cooler Master V6GT
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0342134 $69.99

Motherboard:
P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0378090 $269.99

GPU:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 MDT 1536MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0381762 $599.99

HD(s):
OCZ Agility 3 120GB SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Drive (SSD) with SandForce 2281 Controller
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364780 $159.99
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0334293 $139.99

PSU:
Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1050W 80PLUS
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0357382 $219.99

Memory:
Corsair Vengeance Series 16GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Four 4GB Memory Modules)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0360144 $99.99

Drive(s):
Samsung SH-B123L 12X BD Combo Drive OEM
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0348952 $69.99

Soundcard:
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series PCIe
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0310211 $169.99


Total ~$2080

some initial questions I have come up with:
Are there any issues that might come up using the PC777 case?
Is the motherboard a good choice? Im not too sure what to look for in one specifically.
GPU - not sure on what to pick between the various brands offered; would I benefit more from two cheaper cards run SLI?
PSU - will this be ok for the GPU? is it overboard?
Would this all successfully work together?

Any and all feedback/recommendations/comments greatly appreciated!

-Snail
Edited by TheSnail - 1/23/12 at 5:00pm
post #2 of 10
Stick to Microcenter on the CPU.Everything else should be cheaper elsewhere if you look.My suggestions to you:
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131792 or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790
Unless you really want the features of the Deluxe version.
GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590
RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231315
Optical Blu-Ray burner:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136239
PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034

If you plan on going SLI on that 580 later on then 1000W is not overboard.Don't have any experience with that case but from looking at the pics,it looks cramped to me and might give you issues.
Edited by bleachigo - 1/23/12 at 5:26pm
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Not sure why you would want to only shop at Microcenter, as while yes they do have a good deal on a few items, many items are just a bit over priced smile.gif I'd personally look elsewhere to buy several of them, basically anything except for the Motherboard / CPU combo as you get $50 off and they 2600k is much cheaper there than elsewhere.

Personally if only shopping from microcenter, this is how my build would go

Enermax LEPA Series 850 Watt ATX Modular Power Supply
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" (though I would actually go with a Caviar Green as its just being used as a storage drive)
igmatek ACXTHDT-S1283DK Dark Knight S1283 CPU Cooler
(2X) EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 1536MB GDDR5
Intel Core i7 2600K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor
SUS P8P67 PRO R3.1 LGA 1155 P67 ATX Intel Motherboard
Patriot Viper Xtreme Series 8GB DDR3-2000
Samsung SH-B123L 12X BD Combo Drive OEM

With a $2000 budget, there is no reason you shouldn't have SLI cards - you'll notice there is no Sound card, unless your an audiophile with lots of $$ in stereo equipment, the on board sound card will do just fine as the higher end boards have dedicated sound cards.

In reality, i'd probably step down to the 2500k instead, as I doubt you'll be using a 2600k to its capacity, but why not, it fits in a $2000 budget.

Last, with SLI 580's even the 850W is far overkill, you could get away with tri-sli on a decent 850w - I've had tri-sli 580's, ran them with a 1KW PSU but only because it was given to me, not something that was necessary. Going overkill on something that you aren't going to use is inane, you're welcome to read all the reviews on SLI 580's and listen to plenty of users with experience smile.gif
Edited by appleg33k85 - 1/23/12 at 5:30pm
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Hmmm, bleachigo, they have the pro version of that motherboard for 209.99 at microcenter also; I checked out http://www.asus.com/Compare/ and had the V/GEN3, PRO, and DELUXE versions added, and it looks like the PRO/DELUXE might be best for me if I am going to try out onboard sound, since they seem to have more in the Audio catagory. Also, that PSU you recommended is the same price as what I had picked out, would you recommend the Corsair one over it?

appleg, I have a giftcard from a warranty on a laptop that died, so I guess my phrasing of 'would like to purchase everything at Microcenter' was a bit off; I definitely want to purchase the entirety of it there haha. I dont see that PSU at the Denver microcenter, how about this one: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0356836 ? And I guess I could always try out the onboard sound, and then add the sound card later if i felt it was inadequate for any reason.

The seagate and the WD green caviar are the same price, any reason you would recommend the caviar over the seagate? (yes you're correct that it is just a storage drive). That cpu cooler does look nice (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340872). As for the graphics card, (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0352401 $500), could 2 lower models run SLI maybe be better than what I have added now (like 2 570s or so?)? 2 580s seems pretty extreme lol.

Oh and thank you for the replies
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Corsair is what i would get for PSU.Here is another option i i cooked up for you.See if you like it.This is taking into account if you need a new case and have issues with your old one.Otherwise,just subtract it from the total.Also,do you really need a blu-ray drive cause the 1TB Seagate comes with a free DVD burner.If you don't then subtract the blu-ray drive too.CPU you can get at Microcenter.There's also going to be about $40 in rebates on the list.This is with 2 GTX 570's also:
450
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microcenter will match newegg especially if you are going to buy parts for a whole system smile.gif beauty of MC. Usually they try not to on one part, but if you buy all of those parts the will match for you, if they say no, say you did it before. As i know they will match neweg as I have done it at the two locations closest to me without problems.

Also MC is the best b/c you can return broken stuff or in 30 days if you find a better deal or just don't like it you can exchange or return depending on the product, i take full advantage of US consumer laws haha.
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Hmm interesting, thanks for the heads-up, I'll definitely price out the completed system on newegg as well to bring with me for the purchase to see if I can work anything there.

After more research/considering the comments above, I'm thinking I want to change the setup a bit. The recommend 2x 580s seems a bit excessive to me, so I was looking into doing an SLI of a lower model, and even 2 560Ti's in SLI seem to outperform a single 580; but, reading that some games will have trouble/more issues might come up is making me lean toward a single 580 (I would rather not deal with too many technical issues if possible; correct me if this understanding is wrong). However, for the single gtx580 the Galaxy I initially had seems to be more for someone interested in multi-monitor setups w/ a single card, which is not me. EVGA seems nice, Im thinking of going with the EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked now, with the ASUS P8Z68 PRO instead of Deluxe also (frees up another $100 or so). I'm still in need of some guidance on RAM, the PSU, and also any thoughts/direction on the SSD?
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Look at the list that i provided on my second post for RAM and PSU.8GB should be enough for gaming and 850W should also be enough even if you SLI those GTX 580's in the future.If you're leaning towards SSD only and without the HDD,i would say get at least 120GB of space as they do fill up fast.If you want fast boot and storage at the same time,then a 60-80GB SSD with 1TB HDD.
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I have no reputation so u prob wont trust me on this but i wud prefer this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151111
Why i choose seasonic? Corsair overprices a little too much and 860w shud be more than enough plus wat i just showed is 80 PLus Platinumhttp://www.overclock.net/t/1204598/first-solo-build-rebuilding-the-snail-help-advice-appreciated-2000-budget#
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Intel 320 Series 80gb Western Digital Caviar Blue 640gb TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653R CoolerMaster Hyper212+ 
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I have no reputation so u prob wont trust me on this but i wud prefer this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151111
Why i choose seasonic? Corsair overprices a little too much and 860w shud be more than enough plus wat i just showed is 80 PLus Platinumhttp://www.overclock.net/t/1204598/first-solo-build-rebuilding-the-snail-help-advice-appreciated-2000-budget#
lolz

The Corsair HX850 is only $160 after MIR.A lot of people here on OCN use it and trust it tongue.gif.
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