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Should I upgrade my sli 580 1.5gb to 580 3gb?

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Right now I'm running two gtx 580s 1.5gb in my rig. My question is: should I upgrade them to the 3gb version? I'm running 3x 23inch monitors, up till about a month ago I would say that it was working fine, but I've had these cards and never really run that intensive graphical games, only things like wow, minecraft, tf2 etc. but after playing skyrim, swtor, dues ex, my cards seem to be failing as I keep getting artifacts and tearing. I also get driver failure if my computer has been running for 2days without shutting down completely and restarting.

My main concern is that should I wait for the new series from nvidia to come out? I'm not very pleased with ati and I haven't been for a while when it comes to multi monitor gaming, so I'd rather stick with nvidia. Ive rationalized it somewhat as the upgrade will last me a long time as it seems most games I'd be playing won't push the 3gb cards to the extreme if I decide to upgrade. But I want to find out what the general consensus is on this issue.

Another question is if I do upgrade, the two options I have are: msi 580 lightning xtreme or Evga 580. As I live in Asia, id much rather choose these two brands over the other competitors. However, I'm running a ft02 case and I've heard that the msi card may run into issues about heat since they spread heat into the case instead of exhausting it out. And since the msi card is basically a three slot card due to the fans taking up extra space, I'm worried about spacing them in my rig. This is based off searching threads here where other people have had an issue with it and I have yet to find a solution, or if there even is one. I'm running an asus p7p55d board so I'm not sure if I can space the cards properly to allow airflow. If I can't then I'll get the Evga one, not the classified one as there isn't anymore for purchase here.

Feedback is appreciated
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What drivers are you running? Upgrade to the 290.38 Betas. They're very superb and rock solid. No need to upgrade to 3GB versions, you'll lose more money on the swap than what the upgrade will be worth. Give the new drivers a try instead. 

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What drivers are you running? Upgrade to the 290.38 Betas. They're very superb and rock solid. No need to upgrade to 3GB versions, you'll lose more money on the swap than what the upgrade will be worth. Give the new drivers a try instead. 


I am running the beta drivers, but the screen tearing still persists. The VRAM usage keeps getting pushed to max when I run my games which is why I was considering upgrading. Plus the driver failure has plagued me for 2 months already regardless of drivers I'm running, it even happens after 2 days of not turning off my computer where a YouTube video can crash it.
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I also suggest waiting, the new chips are due for premier in 3 months, and cards on the shelves in 6. You'd get the best upgrade from that, and selling the 580s while people (like me) still want them.
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I also suggest waiting, the new chips are due for premier in 3 months, and cards on the shelves in 6. You'd get the best upgrade from that, and selling the 580s while people (like me) still want them.

But would the upgrade to the 3gb last me a while? I'm concerned at the time it will take for an equavalent card to come out with 3gb or more to properly support multi monitor gaming. It is my shortsightedness that has put me in this situation I admit.
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post #6 of 15
You might as well get 7970's 3GB if you can't wait then.
I don't think it's worth changing to the "same" card
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I currently can't play BF3 on ULTRA at 2560x1440 with my 3 way SLI GTX 580 1.5GB setup due to lack of VRAM. When I'm playing on games on HIGH I'm pretty much maxed on VRAM usage across my 3 580's.

I'm personally waiting for the new NVIDIA cards before I upgrade to 3GB cards. I thought about picking up some 7970's, but I'm waiting to see NVIDIAs offering for the time being.


So you can either upgrade to the same cards with more memory. Pick up some 7970's if you can't wait. Wait for NVIDIAs new cards (who knows when that will be?). Or you can try turning down some of the graphics settings to see if that helps with the screen tearing.
Edited by vulpecula - 1/24/12 at 7:49am
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you could try a strategic RMA - i.e.

you still have warranty time, so wait till the new 560 equivalent comes out which is supposedly equal to the 580, except its got more vram. Explain that they are crashing and artifacting , they should not be doing that - so hopefully they will replace you with a pair of 660s (or 760s). Also surround gaming is vram intensive, try running 720p across them instead of 1080p. Its still going to be an epic experience of vast proportions.

Also if you really wana run 1080p (which im sure you do) then just turn off the AA - it isnt really needed at 1080p. Use fxaa instead and maybe turn down a few unneeded settings - a lot of ultra settings are hideously inefficient and do very little to the candy factor - i.e. BF3
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Quote:
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you could try a strategic RMA - i.e.
you still have warranty time, so wait till the new 560 equivalent comes out which is supposedly equal to the 580, except its got more vram. Explain that they are crashing and artifacting , they should not be doing that - so hopefully they will replace you with a pair of 660s (or 760s). Also surround gaming is vram intensive, try running 720p across them instead of 1080p. Its still going to be an epic experience of vast proportions.
Also if you really wana run 1080p (which im sure you do) then just turn off the AA - it isnt really needed at 1080p. Use fxaa instead and maybe turn down a few unneeded settings - a lot of ultra settings are hideously inefficient and do very little to the candy factor - i.e. BF3

Several faults with the RMA strategy:

1. Not quite sure the 760 will match the 580 in performance. We won't know this until release. We also don't know the VRAM NVIDIA will unleash.
2. You can't depend on the RMA department issuing newer cards UNLESS they've stopped producing and no longer have your cards in stock. This won't be the case for a good, long time with the 580s. By which time I would say the warranty has ran out anyway.
3. RMA department would test the cards and see them as running perfectly well. They would return the cards to him and if they're like in the UK, they would charge him for all the lost time and postage.

On a side-note, no way I would recommend anyone upgrade 580s from 1.5 GB to 3.0 GB. Sounds like a money pit with very, very little benefit. Might as well enjoy the 580s with 1.5 GB until they no longer suit you at all, at which time you can get 780s or better, non-reference 880s! wink.gif
Remember, marketing by these capitalist companies like NVIDIA (Apple is a perfect example) will try to make you feel inadequate if you have an older model than the very best and latest - they will make you feel like you have a tiny shlong. Best not fall trap to their money-grabbing, on sheer principle.
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No if you're going to upgrade at least make it worth your time and effort by getting HD7970's instead.
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