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My budget is $100. I do NOT want a number pad; I never use it and it takes up space. I will be using it for mostly gaming and a little typing (typing performance is not crucial).

As far as switches go, I have done some reading and think I have narrowed it down to Cherry MX red, black, or brown. Seems the only difference between reds and blacks is actuation force, with reds being the lighter key. I do not have any good reference point for actuation force. How do reds/blacks compare to rubber dome keys in that regard? I am also not sure if the tactility of the browns would give me any benefit.

Suggestions?
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If you want a TKL with reds Leopold has theirs on sale For $89.
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=fc200rrab

Reds will be very light compared to rubber domes. Takes a little getting used to as at first its very easy to type the wrong key.
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Look good and $20 off is cool. Now I guess it comes down to actually deciding if that is the right switch. How does the actuation force of blacks compare to rubber domes?

Also, being a mech kb noob, I thought the whole point of the mechanical switches was for the click. Then I found out about the blacks and reds and was confused. Are reds/blacks really that different from rubber domes?
Edited by FlipBack - 1/24/12 at 7:54am
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Noppoo Choc Mini (No numpad) with red, black or brown switches (You can choose)?
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Are reds/blacks really that different from rubber domes?
Yes, and reds and blacks do not feel similar either due to the large difference in weight they have. If you use them you will instantly feel the difference.
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Are reds/blacks really that different from rubber domes?
Aside from the actuation force, the actuation point is totally different as well. Rubber domes actuate pretty much at the bottom, but you only have to push reds or blacks down halfway to type the key. The extension also has a more fluid quality to it and if you bottom out, reds are crisp while blacks get a bit "mushy" at the end. The short of it is that while the blacks might have a possibly similar actuation force to rubber domes, they will feel very, very different to use.
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While we are on the subject of MX Blacks, I had always thought the guys over at deskthority were crazy but vintage MX Blacks do feel much better than the currently used ones. There is still no definitive answer as to why at this current time? I remember speculation that it was due to grease used on the old ones but was this ever confirmed?
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Aside from the actuation force, the actuation point is totally different as well. Rubber domes actuate pretty much at the bottom, but you only have to push reds or blacks down halfway to type the key. The extension also has a more fluid quality to it and if you bottom out, reds are crisp while blacks get a bit "mushy" at the end. The short of it is that while the blacks might have a possibly similar actuation force to rubber domes, they will feel very, very different to use.

Thanks for that. The "crispness" of the reds sounds nice, but I'm worried about how easy it is to mistype due to how light they are. I think I might give browns a go, the click upon actuation could be nice.
post #9 of 24
Get the SS 6Gv2, nothing will beat it in your price range. Looks great with the sleek design, and rage all you like you won't break it. Not to mention all the lovely specs http://steelseries.com/products/keyboards/steelseries-6gv2
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Get the SS 6Gv2, nothing will beat it in your price range. Looks great with the sleek design, and rage all you like you won't break it. Not to mention all the lovely specs http://steelseries.com/products/keyboards/steelseries-6gv2

I wouldn't recommend a 6Gv2 over a Leopold. The 6Gv2 has no switch choices, has a numpad(OP wants tenkeyless), has a proprietary stabilizer on the enter key(good luck with aftermarket keycaps), and a non standard sized right shift(again, good luck with aftermarket keycaps).
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