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Dude what are You talking about? He is just trying to find the best solution because he has a fixed low budget. And if he could get a hold of a Yorkfield C2Q then it wouldn't definitely be no bottleneck.

A C2Q and a "gaming" gpu for the budget of $200.. Good luck.. rolleyes.gif
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Dude what are You talking about? He is just trying to find the best solution because he has a fixed low budget. And if he could get a hold of a Yorkfield C2Q then it wouldn't definitely be no bottleneck.

Thats the problem there is no best solution. Only a workable solution.
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What resolution do you play on? And any games other than BF3 and SC2? SC2 is not very demanding on the graphics card (6850 could run it on ultra at 1920x1080 without a problem), but it is very demanding on the CPU. It only runs on two cores, even an OC'd 2500k will dip in fps in some situations. I don't play BF3, but I think it's the opposite, or at least much more demanding of the GPU than SC2 is. So part of the issue is that both games need different stronger components.

Honestly, I would save up until you can afford a cheap H61 mobo + cheap SB cpu along with a graphics card. You can get a dual core sandy bridge for around $60-70, a cheap H61 for $50 or so, and then the 6850 for 120ish AMIR, so you'd only need another $40 or so. This path would put you on 1155, a live socket, so you could potentially upgrade again in case of a windfall of cash. Something like a G620 for $70 or a G530 for $50ish (both are sandy bridge) would be a much better choice than an old 775 socket cpu.

You could also consider something like a 5770/6770 (same card) to save some cash on the GPU, depending on your resolution/desired settings.

edit: something like
this G620 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399
or this G530 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116409
and a h61 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
along with a graphics card
Edited by Molybdenum - 1/24/12 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by johhu12 View Post

Well e8400 will bottleneck 6850. And at what quad core CPU's are you looking at? In most cases I would go with a quad core.

I was looking at a used Q6600 on amazon for about $130 from "Desert Emporium" which looks pretty reliable,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LRMR26/ref=gno_cart_title_1

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Totally agree.. And for the price point you want I would say go with the E8400. What resolution are you playing at? What 775 mobo are you pairing it with? I would say OC the hell out of the E8400 but with 1333Mhz FSB cpu you will need faster RAM (if it's DDR2) and a good mobo.. Something like a P43 or P45 chipset.. Just my .02

Right now I have a Dell mobo:
http://www.ascendtech.us/dell-optiplex-gx620-hh807-motherboard_i_mbdeloptgx620.aspx

I think the chipset is a 945G on the specs.

I have ddr3 ram(4gb)

Honestly, though, I really don't want to but I am willing to spend $300 extra to get this build:

Intel i3-2100 cpu $125
HD6850 gpu $150
ASRock pro3 mobo $120
CX500W psu $60

along with a cheapish case, maybe a HAF912

but I really want to save the money if possible.

Edit: One other option would be

instead of an i3, i could get a phenom x4 instead...along with a cheaper mobo
Edited by FatalBlur - 1/24/12 at 5:21pm
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If you opt for LGA775 path, how long you plan to hold on to it? You may save money now but how does that saving translate to long term? If you plan to hold on to it for at least 2 years I say it is a viable choice. CPU will still be a bottleneck, but it is an upgrade nevertheless.
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Get an i3-2100 and a H61 board. If you look around you can probably snag this combo for $150. That'll serve you much better in the long run than upgrading your 775 platform.
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What resolution do you play on? And any games other than BF3 and SC2? SC2 is not very demanding on the graphics card (6850 could run it on ultra at 1920x1080 without a problem), but it is very demanding on the CPU. It only runs on two cores, even an OC'd 2500k will dip in fps in some situations. I don't play BF3, but I think it's the opposite, or at least much more demanding of the GPU than SC2 is. So part of the issue is that both games need different stronger components.
Honestly, I would save up until you can afford a cheap H61 mobo + cheap SB cpu along with a graphics card. You can get a dual core sandy bridge for around $60-70, a cheap H61 for $50 or so, and then the 6850 for 120ish AMIR, so you'd only need another $40 or so. This path would put you on 1155, a live socket, so you could potentially upgrade again in case of a windfall of cash. Something like a G620 for $70 or a G530 for $50ish (both are sandy bridge) would be a much better choice than an old 775 socket cpu.
You could also consider something like a 5770/6770 (same card) to save some cash on the GPU, depending on your resolution/desired settings.
edit: something like
this G620 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399
or this G530 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116409
and a h61 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
along with a graphics card

Alright man, I think this is the way I'm going-ish

I'll probably get a i3-2105(as idk if the sandy bridge pentium will bottleneck
the mobo you suggested
a 6770
a HAF912
and everything else is pretty obv

Thanks for all the help guys
If anyone has any more suggestions feel free, but I feel this is the way I'm really going for
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What 775 mobo are you using currently? Alot of people on OCN will try and tell you that 965 is bottlenecking your 560ti. They use it very very loosely. My second rig which details are on here, had my 570 in it while I was waiting for my I5 stuff to show up. Not an extreme gaming rig by any means but I was perfectly fine with it. Sure if you benched it theres a huge bottleneck but user experience is all that matters. Id even step down to a 6770 with the e6500 your looking at, will run many games. Nay sayers aside. Oh yeah my e6500 clocked to 3.6ghz very very easily and stably with ddr2 800 ram running at 1066....
Edited by Hatfieco - 1/24/12 at 5:39pm
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What resolution do you play on? And any games other than BF3 and SC2? SC2 is not very demanding on the graphics card (6850 could run it on ultra at 1920x1080 without a problem), but it is very demanding on the CPU. It only runs on two cores, even an OC'd 2500k will dip in fps in some situations. I don't play BF3, but I think it's the opposite, or at least much more demanding of the GPU than SC2 is. So part of the issue is that both games need different stronger components.
Honestly, I would save up until you can afford a cheap H61 mobo + cheap SB cpu along with a graphics card. You can get a dual core sandy bridge for around $60-70, a cheap H61 for $50 or so, and then the 6850 for 120ish AMIR, so you'd only need another $40 or so. This path would put you on 1155, a live socket, so you could potentially upgrade again in case of a windfall of cash. Something like a G620 for $70 or a G530 for $50ish (both are sandy bridge) would be a much better choice than an old 775 socket cpu.
You could also consider something like a 5770/6770 (same card) to save some cash on the GPU, depending on your resolution/desired settings.
edit: something like
this G620 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399
or this G530 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116409
and a h61 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
along with a graphics card

Alright man, I think this is the way I'm going-ish

I'll probably get a i3-2105(as idk if the sandy bridge pentium will bottleneck
the mobo you suggested
a 6770
a HAF912
and everything else is pretty obv

Thanks for all the help guys
If anyone has any more suggestions feel free, but I feel this is the way I'm really going for

i3-2105 has HD3000 graphics, which you won't be using with a 6770. Get either a i3-2100 or the i3-2120 or i3-2130 depending on the cost. A change in that third digit (21X0) signifies a change in clock speed where the 5 on the end (2105) means HD3000 graphics. If you're ordering on newegg, the i3-2120 is probably the sweet spot of the i3s. ($5 more for 200 MHz more than the i3-2100)
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get Q6600 and OC it to 2.8GHZ
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