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real world test..

its like ..

Ferrari vs civic

on a 100mph speed limit hgwy.

just the same travel time..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by YaGit(TM) View Post

real world test..

its like ..

Ferrari vs civic

on a 100mph speed limit hgwy.

just the same travel time..

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Yes but in this comparison one is a much better chick magnet. Be honest, that's why most people buy sports cars thumb.gif
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Or CPUs don't actually matter in most games, and people used minute differences as their reason for picking one system over another.

Those minute differences should be in Intel's favor as their CPU is faster. That is the problem.
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Those minute differences should be in Intel's favor as their CPU is faster. That is the problem.

It is possible that since the FX 8150 has 8 cores vs. intel's 4 cores (8 threads) that it distributes the data load as needed per core. It gives the illusion of a smoother gameplay experience because there are not other threads/tasks competing for the same cores that the game is running on.

In this case, I believe it when they say the FX 8150 felt smoother, even if it didn't yield a tangible difference in framerate.
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I am quite sure that the 990FX platform performed better and this is why:

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The 990FX chipset has 32 PCI-E lanes for graphics and another 6 for other purposes. This would mean in Crossfire each card would be getting 16 lanes of 2.0 bandwidth.

Sandy Bridge has 16 PCI-E lanes.

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The 990FX would represent the x8 PCIe 3.0 bandwidth while the P67 would be the x4. Depending on the game used the difference could be very little (as in the case of BF3) or huge (as in the case of DiRT3).

Also on non-CPU limited games there is absolutely no difference between the two CPUs so it entirely becomes a race as to who has more PCIe bandwidth.

644

Not a bad showing for AMD but the difference in gaming between different CPUs has never been MASSIVE (ignoring PCIe bandwidth). I applaud them for gaining a large enough margin to be statistically relevant.
Edited by TickleMeElmo - 1/29/12 at 10:41pm
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post #166 of 199
make it a real setup and see what the votes are.

amd fx series and a dedicated gpu vs intel sandy bridge(dosnt have to be an i5 or an i7) and the same dedicated gpu

both with 8gbs of mem a 120hz monitor and a ssd. see where the votes land.
    
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I am quite sure that the 990FX platform performed better and this is why:

With 16 lanes, 8x 8x 4x on the P67 Fatality vs. the 990FX's 16x 16x 8x and it's 32 lanes isn't going to make much of a difference - even then the CPU bottleneck with the 8150 when comparing it to a 2700K on a lowly threaded game is going to be 10 times more pronounced and visually apparent than a GPU's bottleneck when run at 4x. 4-8-16, even on PCIE 2.0 the bottleneck is minimal - nevermind 8x to 16x.

A. AMD stuck 8 monitors on a system and was able to squeeze the 2 to 5% out of the FX's 32 lanes vs SB's 16.
B. AMD cherry picked the applications or games which were probably highly threaded.
C. AMD cherry picked the applications or games which were probably highly threaded.
or
D. all

The last benchmark at 2560x1600 is all GPU limited.

Add in the fact that they were at the HardOCP FX GamExperience and the test was called AMD Reality Check.
I'm not saying BD is bad by any means, it needs time for software to mature and use it's potential, but it doesn't change the fact that this took place at an AMD unveiling which pretty much makes it a controlled and audience chosen test.

It's like preaching to the choir... and it doesn't change that fact for any company when or if they do the same - Intel or AMD.
Edited by pengs - 1/30/12 at 12:34am
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I am quite sure that the 990FX platform performed better and this is why:
700
The 990FX chipset has 32 PCI-E lanes for graphics and another 6 for other purposes. This would mean in Crossfire each card would be getting 16 lanes of 2.0 bandwidth.
Sandy Bridge has 16 PCI-E lanes.
600
600
The 990FX would represent the x8 PCIe 3.0 bandwidth while the P67 would be the x4. Depending on the game used the difference could be very little (as in the case of BF3) or huge (as in the case of DiRT3).
Also on non-CPU limited games there is absolutely no difference between the two CPUs so it entirely becomes a race as to who has more PCIe bandwidth.
644
Not a bad showing for AMD but the difference in gaming between different CPUs has never been MASSIVE (ignoring PCIe bandwidth). I applaud them for gaining a large enough margin to be statistically relevant.

Very true, most game are all about gpu, not cpu. The benchmarks might show bd bad, but noone notices when using the system. As a reslut, i chose cheaper and more cores, but have nothing against intel, amds just cheaper and u cant notice a speed difference when using it.
 
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Quote:
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Quote:
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Those minute differences should be in Intel's favor as their CPU is faster. That is the problem.

It is possible that since the FX 8150 has 8 cores vs. intel's 4 cores (8 threads) that it distributes the data load as needed per core. It gives the illusion of a smoother gameplay experience because there are not other threads/tasks competing for the same cores that the game is running on.

In this case, I believe it when they say the FX 8150 felt smoother, even if it didn't yield a tangible difference in framerate.

the 4 cores of the i5 run only four threads, so it is very likely that it does better on highly threaded apps.
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So AMD ran a blind test while forcing each PC into a GPU limited situation to support how strong their CPU is. I hope the majority of OCN sees this for what it actually is, a company trying to trick customers into a sale.
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