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There's no real reason and you're over-estimating the stress placed on the part.

Well in that case recommending the i3 2100 seems to be the best choice. And it is $100 cheaper than the 8120, while performing better or very similarly in all settings.

So really; If you want performance and high "future-proofing", you should go with a solid and well-priced processor like the i5 2500k. If you're looking for a CPU to drive a single GPU setup appropriately for a generation, then go with the i3 which is cheaper and better than top-tier BD offerings (and the Pentium SB offers the best performance for budget). However you want to spin it, AMD just does not make sense for a gaming rig.


You're looking for budget performance: dual-core SB pentium (G620/850)
Midrange performance: i3 2100
High performance: i5 2500k
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There's no real reason and you're over-estimating the stress placed on the part.

Well in that case recommending the i3 2100 seems to be the best choice. And it is $100 cheaper than the 8120, while performing better or very similarly in all settings.

So really; If you want performance and high "future-proofing", you should go with a solid and well-priced processor like the i5 2500k. If you're looking for a CPU to drive a single GPU setup appropriately for a generation, then the i3 and cheaper is better than top-tier BD offerings (and the Pentium SB offers the best performance for budget). However you want to spin it, AMD just does not make sense for a gaming rig.


You're looking for budget performance: dual-core SB pentium (G620/850)
Midrange performance: i3 2100
High performance: i5 2500k

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the i3 and bulldozer were in different tests.
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Well in that case recommending the i3 2100 seems to be the best choice. And it is $100 cheaper than the 8120, while performing better or very similarly in all settings.
So really; If you want performance and high "future-proofing", you should go with a solid and well-priced processor like the i5 2500k. If you're looking for a CPU to drive a single GPU setup appropriately for a generation, then go with the i3 which is cheaper and better than top-tier BD offerings (and the Pentium SB offers the best performance for budget). However you want to spin it, AMD just does not make sense for a gaming rig.
You're looking for budget performance: dual-core SB pentium (G620/850)
Midrange performance: i3 2100
High performance: i5 2500k

Entirely depends, actually. The FX-4100 is a good performer and if you can find a cheap Phenom II like I did, AMD are great.

And once you get overclocking results the FX-4100 @ 4.5 roughly matches the i3 2100, as verified by TH and 4.5Ghz is pretty much the average minimum OC for a FX-4100.
    
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good PR stunt but everybody on OCN knows how crap the 8150 is. to the average joe, yeah, hes not going to know which one is truly better. but to us, we know.
also this is a really bad test. just gaming. introduce the 8150 to some encoding and cpu based tasks and the 2700k will just stomp it.

Actually you are incorrect and do not know. The 8150 is not crap. That's the whole point. If you just run benches then you can easily be deceived. If you actually use your PC then AMD provides an excellent experience and value - which is exactly what the BLIND test proved.
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lol @ all the people who continue to argue over which CPU is better. You guys really don't have anything better to do with your life do you?
Bottom line is this test (and others like it) has shown that the average consumer would never know the difference from my system to their crappy Dell. The vast majority of the world just wants a PC to run when they turn it on and surf the net, play facebook games, etc. I sell PCs as a secondary source of income, have been doing it for years, and while people think my system is cool to look at they have no interest in owning one or spending the money for it.
$500 is what most people top out at for a computer, no more. They use their TVs or an old monitor from their previous system and don't care about top of the line performance. No one benchmarks unless you are a geek. No one runs Fraps or Afterburner to monitor fps during games. No one overclocks their system. These things are all reserved for the tiny 5% or less of us.
Most people are coming to me to build systems, want to upgrade from single core CPUs with 512 MB of RAM and onboard graphics. Any new PC sold at Walmart would be a huge upgrade to them.
As for those of us who are 'enthusiast,' I dare you to run a similar test. I bet if you had someone set up 2 systems, side by side, one with a FX 8150 and the other with a i5 2500k in it. At stock settings you would be hard pressed to figure out which was which. Be it in gaming (old or new) or just general desktop usage. Turn off all the monitoring software and you would be clueless.

now.. take a look at this wall of text..

+1 for being realistic
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lol @ all the people who continue to argue over which CPU is better. You guys really don't have anything better to do with your life do you?
Bottom line is this test (and others like it) has shown that the average consumer would never know the difference from my system to their crappy Dell. The vast majority of the world just wants a PC to run when they turn it on and surf the net, play facebook games, etc. I sell PCs as a secondary source of income, have been doing it for years, and while people think my system is cool to look at they have no interest in owning one or spending the money for it.
$500 is what most people top out at for a computer, no more. They use their TVs or an old monitor from their previous system and don't care about top of the line performance. No one benchmarks unless you are a geek. No one runs Fraps or Afterburner to monitor fps during games. No one overclocks their system. These things are all reserved for the tiny 5% or less of us.
Most people are coming to me to build systems, want to upgrade from single core CPUs with 512 MB of RAM and onboard graphics. Any new PC sold at Walmart would be a huge upgrade to them.
As for those of us who are 'enthusiast,' I dare you to run a similar test. I bet if you had someone set up 2 systems, side by side, one with a FX 8150 and the other with a i5 2500k in it. At stock settings you would be hard pressed to figure out which was which. Be it in gaming (old or new) or just general desktop usage. Turn off all the monitoring software and you would be clueless.

now.. take a look at this wall of text..

+1 for being realistic

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You found a 2500k at $180!?! Send me the link. At the prices ive seen the 2500k is $230, the 2600k is $330, the 8120 is $200 and the 8150 is $260. This makes amd cheaper.

Since no one answered your question, here are some links (Note they are for in store purchase only)

MicroCenter (A computer store in the US) sells the following

Intel Core i5 2500k for $179.99 Link

Intel Core i7 2600k for $279.99 Link

Intel Core i7 2700k for $349.99 Link

This is the only place i have seen these prices, But luckily for me i live 6 blocks from MicroCenter
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Since no one answered your question, here are some links (Note they are for in store purchase only)
MicroCenter (A computer store in the US) sells the following
Intel Core i5 2500k for $179.99 Link
Intel Core i7 2600k for $279.99 Link
Intel Core i7 2700k for $349.99 Link
This is the only place i have seen these prices, But luckily for me i live 6 blocks from MicroCenter

Bought my computer last week @ microcenter instead of the egg because of this deal.

4 hour round trip, but saved roughly 400 on the entire system with no compromises except on the case
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lol @ all the people who continue to argue over which CPU is better. You guys really don't have anything better to do with your life do you?
Bottom line is this test (and others like it) has shown that the average consumer would never know the difference from my system to their crappy Dell. The vast majority of the world just wants a PC to run when they turn it on and surf the net, play facebook games, etc. I sell PCs as a secondary source of income, have been doing it for years, and while people think my system is cool to look at they have no interest in owning one or spending the money for it.
$500 is what most people top out at for a computer, no more. They use their TVs or an old monitor from their previous system and don't care about top of the line performance. No one benchmarks unless you are a geek. No one runs Fraps or Afterburner to monitor fps during games. No one overclocks their system. These things are all reserved for the tiny 5% or less of us.
Most people are coming to me to build systems, want to upgrade from single core CPUs with 512 MB of RAM and onboard graphics. Any new PC sold at Walmart would be a huge upgrade to them.
As for those of us who are 'enthusiast,' I dare you to run a similar test. I bet if you had someone set up 2 systems, side by side, one with a FX 8150 and the other with a i5 2500k in it. At stock settings you would be hard pressed to figure out which was which. Be it in gaming (old or new) or just general desktop usage. Turn off all the monitoring software and you would be clueless.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^
couldnt be more true.
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