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Given it'll be over 6 years since the 360, shouldn't it be at least 8 times as powerful?
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Well this is great, 8 more years of mediocre console ports.
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post #373 of 546
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Negative. A Core 2 Duo would run circles around the XBOX 360 CPU.

Depends what C2D, i can see a E2140 far behind. But i know that a E8500 would run rings around it.
I guess you're right for the general statement though! wink.gif
 
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and pointless, console gamers don't even care about graphics that much..
I do think the idea of such a low card is stupid though, surely they should go for a 6850 and underclock it.. Or a 6790 or whatever at the least.
I mean how hard is it to add a few fans? rolleyes.gif
But they're going to do the most to get the units selling at the highest price point and costing the least.
EDIT: Also for anyone asking why the 7xxx series isn't being used it's because there are no replacements for the entry level GPU's, they'll just be rebadged (higher clocked) 6xxx series.
Sadly that's true. I doubt a console gamer would fork out an extra $200 because it has much better graphics quality. Those cards have significantly higher TDPs though I think, they could as I said go with a mobility GPU for the low TDP but it's pricy.
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I'm not reading 38 pages of posts so I'm sure it has been asked but why the HELL does it take them so long to release these things? No way does it take over 6 years to design something that is merely a custom shrunk pre-built and is in no way revolutionary. The parts they use do not deviate very much from the parts they are based off of(right?) so it's not like they are redesigning the transistor. The case sure as hell can't take 6+ years to design. I'm just thinking about what's in the current xbox and how run-of-the-mill stuff it has. The motherboard? Nothing special there. The CPUs are usually based off of consumer parts aren't they? Even a spec CPU couldn't take that long to design. They have DVD drives in them. Yippee. Is it the low level software and crap that takes awhile to write? 7 YEARS? WHY?! I'm trying to look at it from a production stand point and just can't see why something so generic has such a long development process unless they do it on purpose to milk the current generation.
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I'm not reading 38 pages of posts so I'm sure it has been asked but why the HELL does it take them so long to release these things? No way does it take over 6 years to design something that is merely a custom shrunk pre-built and is in no way revolutionary. The parts they use do not deviate very much from the parts they are based off of(right?) so it's not like they are redesigning the transistor. The case sure as hell can't take 6+ years to design. I'm just thinking about what's in the current xbox and how run-of-the-mill stuff it has. The motherboard? Nothing special there. The CPUs are usually based off of consumer parts aren't they? Even a spec CPU couldn't take that long to design. They have DVD drives in them. Yippee. Is it the low level software and crap that takes awhile to write? 7 YEARS? WHY?! I'm trying to look at it from a production stand point and just can't see why something so generic has such a long development process unless they do it on purpose to milk the current generation.
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post #377 of 546
This console will have a 10 year lifetime.

Towards the end of its cycle, amd will have made a full round in numbers and be back to the 6000 series.
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BTW, what's with these late thread moves to the rumors section.

This thread already reached 377 posts.

I'm not telling any mods how to do their job, but it might be a good idea to move it while a thread is on page 1 because what's the point once a thread gets this massive. You might as well let it be.
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As someone who is both a console gamer and a pc gamer, I'm a little disappointed by this. There was a point in time when I truly believe consoles had a slight graphical advantage over pcs however its not 2005 anymore. My only concern is that a lesser powered console is gonna hold back developers from producing high quality PC titles (graphically high quality). I hope sony has plans for a more powerful Gpu then a 6670!


Well in my opinion using 6670 will hold back only console ports. Meaning they lose good chunk of their attractiveness when ported to PC. Which - in turn - will allow Indy developers to fill the void. With the digital distribution schemes gaining popularity the developers do not need at all costs a publisher. As long as they are able to scrape together the funds needed for developing a game.

Console ports are not limited only by the GFX chip they use but also by the relatively crappy controllers (at least for RTS and FPS style games).

It would have been better to use 6770 level card minimum. But oh well - if using the 6670 is true it just widens the gap between consoles and PC. As this is OCN we can just put on our smug faces and feel good about being " PC gamer master race" wink.gif
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Isn't that the reason why people do everything nowadays?

I do realize Intel has to change sockets to maintain performance every so often.. But they refresh their sockets sometimes just to milk more money..
Same with nVidia's/AMD's renaming schemes? I know people that had 8800GT's and bought 9800GT's looking for a performance gain!
Why do companies do free giveaways? To make them look like a better business and to get people to buy from them, also for the product to actually get bought and talked about.

Why aren't they making cars like they used to? 'cause the cheaper they make them the more profit they gain, and even better when the car dies in 5-10 years and the same family has to buy a new one!

Everything today is about money, it's so stupid.. I wish that people would just get over it and have good lives.

That is my rant for the day over with! biggrin.gif
 
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