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REVOLUTION!!! Calm down bro... thumb.gif
OT: This comes from the successful side of Apple: their products. It just pisses me off when someone this successful has to participate in all those frivolous lawsuits.

There is nothing revolutionary about that observation(although perhaps, you recognized some of my language usage in regards to a certain POV biggrin.gif ) It happens in every industry, people on this forum should recognize it more than most. Consider: How much did Laser Jet printers used to cost? Or even giant LCDs(my 27 inch cost 250), the got cheaper once more competition came in and began to automat as much of the process as possible, this goes all the way to the constituent components that make it, the embodied labor if you will, as well as the actual production of the actual product.

I can now get a decent Smartphone from Qwest for 100 dollars with no contract. This is a sign of what is coming, apple will stay on top for awhile, but they will never be able to keep it up in the long term, as more people catch on and cut costs. They do those "frivolous" lawsuits because Apple isn't stupid they know exactly what is happening. and what is coming. They realize their "mystique"(really a form of fetishism by consumers) will no long be able to command the prices they do now.

This is the ghost in the machine of economic system if you will, one of many. It's really a horrible trait, that leads to all sorts of nasty consequences, but that is a debate for another day. smile.gif Although anyone interested is free to PM, I am always open for discussions on these issues. Those of you who do find what I say interesting, it'd be worth your while to see where this POV spring fronts it's very interesting, PM me smile.gif

I tried to keep this pretty clean of any political commentary so I hope it stays.
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Not only did apple outsell all of android in the US, become the worlds largest smartphone manufacturer, took the lionshare of the profit in all their sectors, but they are first tech company to join Fair Labor Association.

ROFL! Thank you so much, this topic needed some levity.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I hope my sarcasm isn't a spoiler

Edited by Cesaro Summability - 1/25/12 at 6:51pm
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Ohhh but it is. I am a phone repair tech and I order parts for these devices weekly. Apple parts are about 1/3 of the cost of higher end Android devices, yet they expect to sell at a higher retail.
I wouldn't base how good a company is off of it's profits. This just goes to show that Apple is screwing people over just as much as the oil companies.
That doesn't sound correct to me considering that the iPhone 4S carries a higher bill of materials than the Galaxy Nexus.
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it's not surprising, apple is about the only tech company out there that puts a top-priority in user interfaces.

this whole apple using slave labor has been blown out of proportion. foxconn makes circuit boards for just about everyone else. the circuit board in that samsung or htc phone is probably made by foxconn too. blame foxconn for their workers, not apple.
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way too many zombies. time to get out the shotgun.
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you made my night! Have a good one!

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it's not surprising, apple is about the only tech company out there that puts a top-priority in user interfaces.
this whole apple using slave labor has been blown out of proportion. foxconn makes circuit boards for just about everyone else. the circuit board in that samsung or htc phone is probably made by foxconn too. blame foxconn for their workers, not apple.
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And as the AMD Trinity comes out, I will be laughing at Apple.

Also, how many of you guys actually knew about the things going on in the Chinese factories? I read an article about when Apple decided to make a last minute change to the IPhone screens, and hundreds of workers were woken up at 12:00 AM, given a cup of tea and a biscuit, and told to start changing the screens out.

Corporations are gaining their record breaking wealth by semi-slave labor, and that's just wrong.
Edited by Fourth Outsider - 1/25/12 at 9:40pm
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That doesn't sound correct to me considering that the iPhone 4S carries a higher bill of materials than the Galaxy Nexus.

Source? I have yet to see a bill of materials for the Galaxy Nexus. I cannot get parts for the Galaxy Nexus yet, but here is a comparison cost of the older Nexus S LCD/TSP combo compared to the iPhone 4S LCD/TSP combo from my parts vendor. The price difference is staggering really. Believe it people, Apple makes their products from cheap crap and charges you more to buy the phone retail.

Nexus S 4G LCD/TSP combo $169.95

Apple iPhone 4S LCD/TSP combo $59.95
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ROFL! Thank you so much, this topic needed some levity. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I hope my sarcasm isn't a spoiler

So you can be sarcastic about facts? everything I said was a fact. not subject to interpretation. Verifible through sources like the new york times.
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That doesn't sound correct to me considering that the iPhone 4S carries a higher bill of materials than the Galaxy Nexus.

Last bucs fan, only an ignorant person would think that the cost of repair parts has very much to do with the cost of the part for manufacturing. 4s repair parts could be cheaper for many reasons, economy of scale being the most obvious, different markups, or business models for repair parts as well.

Stainless, glass and precision tolerances have always cost more, to say the iphone is cheaper to make or built less well than other top tier smartphones is intellectual dishonesty.
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Last bucs fan, only an ignorant person would think that the cost of repair parts has very much to do with the cost of the part for manufacturing. 4s repair parts could be cheaper for many reasons, economy of scale being the most obvious, different markups, or business models for repair parts as well.
Stainless, glass and precision tolerances have always cost more, to say the iphone is cheaper to make or built less well than other top tier smartphones is intellectual dishonesty.

Not to mention the whole concept of supply and demand for the replacement parts.

Yeah, unfortunately retail replacement parts is not at all a good indication of actual build cost.
    
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It's funny all this celebration over Apple, Apple is the classic case of a capitalist enterprise at the forefront of a rising tech, that of mobile smartphones and gadgets that didn't exist 10 years ago. However, they create the ingredients of their own demise. As apple gets more successful competition comes in, and drives the cost of production DOWN, through more and more automation of the process(removing as much human labor as possible) this will continue until these things Apple makes are dirt cheap, and the whole things falls apart, and Apple is left to move on, or fail. Of course in the process shareholders and Apple execs and to a lesser extend the everyday "real" apple employees. I saw one mention stocks, who cares, in reality the top 1% in this country made more off stocks than all the rest of us combined, so that celebration seems empty in reality. Fetishism of stocks, what a sick symptom of our economic system,.
We really should not celebrate companies like this, who exploit workers across the globe, to feed our unsustainable consumption habits, but act back on us in the form of cheaper labor in general, and conditions of misery for those unfortunate workers. We all know what these conditions are like, one only needs to look at American history to see it. Of course the differences are notable, for one China is a repressive state, not communist at all(Marx would look at China and cry and the perversion of his ideas) there is limited freedom in China, and as a result limited outlets for these workers. In America we could at least unionize and strike, of course many times the Capitalists enterprises would smash those solidarity movements violently, we still have the option to organize, something these Chinese workers completely lack.
You'd think by now Americans would be more aware of these issues, and not celebrate companies who make billions off the backs of the oppressed and repressed, but it is easy to forget. it's a form of commodity fetishism that complete blinds us, but it will never last . These kinds of things are what lead to 2008.

your right... but as long as theres food on my table a roof over my head and cable in the tv i couldnt care. apple products do mroe then jsut sell they promote retail stores adn give jobs locally... so teh **** jobs are all over seas.... im sorry but my friends jobs depend on apple aking a **** load of money so best buy can stay open... the world is a ****y place adn if you care to much about others that you can do nothing about you just come off as depressing and sad
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