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People who kill their cards this way need better cooling. Doesn't everyone realize at this point that the reference coolers are s***?
Reference coolers usually have way better cooling in the VRM department, reference coolers only fail at cooling vs noise, crank that fan speed to 100% and you'll see they cool just as well if not better than most "superior" designs.
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My bad not 24 hrs, but all night doh.gif
Still ridiculous, it's like testing if you're in good enough shape you're in by doing a triathlon when your day-to-day exercise are walking 2 miles.
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Reference coolers usually have way better cooling in the VRM department, reference coolers only fail at cooling vs noise, crank that fan speed to 100% and you'll see they cool just as well if not better than most "superior" designs

I challenge that, seeing as my top card in SLI is running custom cooling and sits at 47C at 100% load (since it's SLI) and my bottom card sits at 50C idle on a reference cooler.
 
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post #33 of 45
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I challenge that, seeing as my top card in SLI is running custom cooling and sits at 47C at 100% load (since it's SLI) and my bottom card sits at 50C idle on a reference cooler.

Read again:
100% fan speed without ridiculously big coolers at load.
VRM temps?
Besides, idletemps are always way off because of inaccuracies of temp probes.
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Read again:
100% fan speed without ridiculously big coolers at load.
VRM temps?
Besides, idletemps are always way off because of inaccuracies of temp probes.

The cooler is the same size. I have no probe to measure specifically that area of the card, but I'd be more than happy to tell you whatever a temp probe says. And the 100% load temps are 47C for the top and 63C with the ref cooler maxed out 100%. Reference coolers suck.
 
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Not sure I buy that. 90% of the time you want a reference cooler for the top card, the aftermarket coolers saturate and just recycle the hot air they produce. Reference actually exit the case. Oh and my top card idles at 35 and my bottom at 33, both reference. Neither will exceed 65-70 in any game ever. If your reference cooler is running that hot its because your case airflow needs to be adjusted.
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post #36 of 45
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180w over the 3.3 and 5 lines, 480(31 amp) over the 12v1 and 12v2 lines, 600 max overall.

Looks like I found your problem. Looking at the bolded text you say your PSU has 2 12 volt rails at 31 amps total so that means you're getting (we'll round up) 16 amps per rail so assuming you're cpu isn't by chance using the same rail as your gpu you have 16 amps to play with just for the GPU. This is the problem with multi rail PSU's, and is why I try to avoid them. 16 amps is very low for a card that you seem to be overclocking quite heavily so I would either lower the clocks or get a better PSU with a single 12v rail, OR try using the other pci pins and hoping you were using the same rail as your cpu.
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All amps refer to is the ocp limit. They all end up at the same 12v source in the psu. If he wires it correctly then he shouldnt have a problem.
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Not sure I buy that. 90% of the time you want a reference cooler for the top card, the aftermarket coolers saturate and just recycle the hot air they produce. Reference actually exit the case. Oh and my top card idles at 35 and my bottom at 33, both reference. Neither will exceed 65-70 in any game ever. If your reference cooler is running that hot its because your case airflow needs to be adjusted.

I'm running an HAF 932 with intake on the back, side, front and bottom and exhausting out the top with 6 AP-15s on my rad. It doesn't get any better than that. There's plenty of airflow in the case, and my reference 460 never had heat problems. My top card is on water, so it's not recycling any of the heat because it's dumping heat directly into the rad at the top of the case, meaning the air coming from the bottom and side of the case (which is 27C) is being used exclusively by the reference cooler. I'll pop the side off and do the test again if you like, but the fact that I even need to do that to get some kind of comparable result still proves my point, doesn't it?
 
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No one in here was talking about liquid cooling. At that point all air cooling sucks period. We were talking about coolers like the frozr, accelero, zalman... I know my reference 570s at 1.1v and 870/1740/2050 idle at 33 bottom and 35-38 top.
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No one in here was talking about liquid cooling. At that point all air cooling sucks period. We were talking about coolers like the frozr, accelero, zalman... I know my reference 570s at 1.1v and 870/1740/2050 idle at 33 bottom and 35-38 top.

The comparison is still valid, because you're just transferring the heat and dumping it somewhere else (i.e. radiator) as opposed to directly into the case or the back of the card. The fact that the waterblock is THAT much better (i.e. halving or more the temperature of the top card) shows me that reference cooling sucks, since you could just take a waterblock (which is just a solid chunk of metal, and therefore a heatsink) and stick a fan on top of it and that would be an "aftermarket cooler"
 
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