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Hey Caleal, did you use something like this to get all 9 fans PWM controlled? My MB has two 4-pin connectors -- one CPU and one chassis (I imagine that's pretty standard):
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13548/cab-464/Akasa_Flexa_FP5_PWM_5-Way_Splitter_-_Smart_Fan_Cable_AK-CBFA03-45.html?tl=g47c251s1325

What board are you using, my two Asus X58 boards ( Sabertooth and Rampage III Gene) also have 4-pin chassis fan headers on them but they can't do PWM control. Only voltage control works with those headers.
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What board are you using, my two Asus X58 boards ( Sabertooth and Rampage III Gene) also have 4-pin chassis fan headers on them but they can't do PWM control. Only voltage control works with those headers.

This one: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8P67_REV_31/

So 4-pin =/= equal PWM control? Right now, my air CPU cooler spins faster as stress is increased, so I assumed that connecting 5 Akasa Viper fans to that plug would synchronize all with CPU load/temp. I have PWM and VRM -- is the VRM what you're looking for?
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This one: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8P67_REV_31/
So 4-pin =/= equal PWM control? Right now, my air CPU cooler spins faster as stress is increased, so I assumed that connecting 5 Akasa Viper fans to that plug would synchronize all with CPU load/temp. I have PWM and VRM -- is the VRM what you're looking for?

Some new Asus boards let you choose between PWM and voltage control, if your board doesn't have such option then it is very much likely that chassis fan headers can only do voltage control. 4-pin headers don't always do PWM, SYS_FAN2 header on my Gigabyte board is also a 4-pin header but it actually only does voltage control.
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Some new Asus boards let you choose between PWM and voltage control, if your board doesn't have such option then it is very much likely that chassis fan headers can only do voltage control. 4-pin headers don't always do PWM, SYS_FAN2 header on my Gigabyte board is also a 4-pin header but it actually only does voltage control.

Okay, you're way smarter than me so I need to borrow your brain:

1) With my MB, can I use this to PWM control five Akasa Viper fans through my CPU 4-pin fan plug (header?): http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13548/cab-464/Akasa_Flexa_FP5_PWM_5-Way_Splitter_-_Smart_Fan_Cable_AK-CBFA03-45.html?tl=g47c251s1325

2) Can I attach the other 3-5 fans in my case to my ASUS 570 4-pin connector so I can still control fan speeds through ASUS's smart doctor, or at least attach those 3-5 fans to the other 4-pin chassis adapter on my MB?

I'm sorry to keep the questions rolling, but you guys/gals are saving me a lot of trial time/money.
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Okay, you're way smarter than me so I need to borrow your brain:
1) With my MB, can I use this to PWM control five Akasa Viper fans through my CPU 4-pin fan plug (header?): http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13548/cab-464/Akasa_Flexa_FP5_PWM_5-Way_Splitter_-_Smart_Fan_Cable_AK-CBFA03-45.html?tl=g47c251s1325
2) Can I attach the other 3-5 fans in my case to my ASUS 570 4-pin connector so I can still control fan speeds through ASUS's smart doctor, or at least attach those 3-5 fans to the other 4-pin chassis adapter on my MB?
I'm sorry to keep the questions rolling, but you guys/gals are saving me a lot of trial time/money.

Vipers will work fine with that splitter cable. I don't know what your other fans are ? Most likely you cannot connect very many fans straight to one header, most boards can only output 1 A per header.
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Vipers will work fine with that splitter cable. I don't know what your other fans are ? Most likely you cannot connect very many fans straight to one header, most boards can only output 1 A per header.

They will all be Vipers. Thanks for your help. I remember studying amps, watts, resistivity, etc for the MCAT, but I've never applied it to real life. I'll need to pull out the ol' Ti-83 and see what I have to work with.
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They will all be Vipers. Thanks for your help. I remember studying amps, watts, resistivity, etc for the MCAT, but I've never applied it to real life. I'll need to pull out the ol' Ti-83 and see what I have to work with.

If you are ok with running all fans at same speed you could also just daisy chain two of those Akasa splitters or you could also connect one splitters to your gpu's fan header and control it with Speedfan or MSI Afterburner. If you want to connect Vipers to chassis fan headers I'd use no more than 3 per header since they seem to draw 0.17 A.
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If you are ok with running all fans at same speed you could also just daisy chain two of those Akasa splitters or you could also connect one splitters to your gpu's fan header and control it with Speedfan or MSI Afterburner. If you want to connect Vipers to chassis fan headers I'd use no more than 3 per header since they seem to draw 0.17 A.

This was my plan. Good to know you agree with it. I think I'm set on my design now.

I don't really understand why, other than for cosmetics, the Blue Dragon build used 120x360 up top and lost the top drive bay. If you do a 120x240 up top with tubes coming out the end closest to the drive bays, you can add a 120 rad on the back exhaust without losing any drives. The front 480 is tempting, but I think I'll stick with the 200mm with 4 fans blowing on it for now. I can always cut down the road if I decide 83,200m^2 of radiator surface area isn't enough (it'd be an extra 17,600mm^2 [or a little more than a single 120 rad] if I swapped the 200 for the 480).
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You dont have to worry about overloading your MOBOs fan header with that splitter. It draws all its power from a normal Molex connector from your PSU. It only gets the PWM signal from the MOBO header, and sends back the RPM signal. SO you can put as many fans as you like on it, without worries. I have the 3 fan, and the 5 fan version of that splitter, and hooked the 3 way up to the 5 way, and had 7 Viper/Apache fans runnning no problem.

And if you are dead set to use PWM fans, like me, you can mount 2x120mm fans to the 200mm Radiator like Caleal and I did. A little work involved, but I am very happy with it. I agree that it sucks there are no good 200mm fans, and no PWM 200mm fans altogether.

With all my fans ran by PWM, at idle-low usage, I cant even hear my rig running. But at 97% usage on my CPU, the fans run at about 75%, which is still quiet enough to sleep a couple feet away. Plus, if for some reason my CPU starts to overheat, I still have some extra fan power left to help keep it cool.

As of right now, I only have a single 240 radiator, and the 200 radiator. And running my CPU at 93-99% and with my GPU at 100%(but on air) my temps stay right around 62c-68C depending on core. But I am planning on upgrading my GPU, and puttting it under water. When I do, I plan on replacing the 240 with a 360 like I have been seeing here and there.

If you are not using those Akasa splitters, that supply their own power, you can use a simply "Y" splitter, but I wouldnt put more than 2 fans on it. I used to use 2 "Y" splitters before they made the Akasa splitters.


Voltage controlled fans are fine, but PWM controlled are GREAT.

Keep the questions coming if you have them.
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You dont have to worry about overloading your MOBOs fan header with that...

Thank you! Here's my final build (I have one more question at the end of it):

120 rad on the back exhaust, 240 rad intake on top, and 200 rad intake with 4x120 akasa viper fans up front. I'll probably put one more exhaust fan on the door, but I hate having things I need to disconnect when taking off the door, so I haven't made that final.

My problem with the 360 on top is that you have the same sq radiator space, but you lose a bay and you're blowing air right onto a drive, so it's not dissipating as much heat. My setup has the downfall of one of the rads being on an exhaust, but I think performance will be better because you can fit a thicker rad (~37mm).

My question: what's a good way to drain your system? Do you setup a drain valve in a tube towards bottom of system, or setup a t-line that ends in a valve? This is my first water-cooled system, and I'm trying not to miss the small, annoying things on the initial setup.
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