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Honestly, I did too. I'm not a fan of these poor performance jumps that AMD gives. However, where credit is due, AMD has the best crossfire performance per date.

60% is what you call a poor performance jump? Man you must really think Ivy is a flop then...
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Actually, you are quite wrong in this aspect, SLI is much better off due to microstuttering, proof here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995-5.html
However Crossfire with 3 cards seems to work much better, but with 2 cards you have too much microstuttering, syncing of frames goes wrong there :/

At least read the whole article before you try to post out of context snip-its of it.
Edited by OwnedINC - 1/25/12 at 2:34am
post #22 of 115
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

nVIDIA, clock it at 1300MHz and watch it destroy your GTX590 as if it was made from paper.
Remember this are very early cores with very low core speeds... Once it's fully unleashed someone might crap his pants xD
They better pull something good, because if they don't, this time they're gonna sound like arseholes.

lol AMD is playing everyone like a fool with these 7970's. they didn't include a whole shader cluster and most likely downclocked these "Beastly OC" cards to remain in a specific performance margin - faster than a 580 but slower than the 6990. when nvidia launches their cards, AMD will release an 8970 with the added shaders and higher clocks, the way it should have been originally. everyone will say that it's a natural evolution of the design, 6month revision, etc. etc. but in truth they already have it.
post #23 of 115
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Originally Posted by Neroh View Post

I have crossfired 7970s and I dont experience microstutter. I havent experienced it since 5xxx series. It was very noticeable back then too.

Just because you don't notice it, does not mean it's not there (personal sensitivity to visible change, different monitor, etc). Going on personal experience, anyone can claim anything, we don't want to live in a world like that, now do we? Show results if you want to be taken a bit more seriously.

I'm still waiting for an article on microstutter for the 7970/50, and of course for the new GK104, or whatever comes first.
Edited by thematrix606 - 1/25/12 at 2:35am
post #24 of 115
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Originally Posted by thematrix606 View Post

Actually, you are quite wrong in this aspect, SLI is much better off due to microstuttering, proof here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995-5.html
However Crossfire with 3 cards seems to work much better, but with 2 cards you have too much microstuttering, syncing of frames goes wrong there :/
That "review" is so very wrong on a lot of levels:
3-way CFX does not eliminate microstutter, not by a long shot. In my experience it's actually worse.
SLI is not smoother at 60 fps than CFX at 60 fps, it all depends on the game played. In my experience, it's just as horrible on either side.
Saying SLI has less microstutter than CFX based on framerate readings is the most idiotic assumption I've ever seen. When they don't even number the graphs I don't know if I should even be reading the article.
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post #25 of 115
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Just because you don't notice it, does not mean it's not there (personal sensitivity to visible change, different monitor, etc). Going on personal experience, anyone can claim anything, we don't want to live in a world like that, now do we? Show results if you want to be taken a bit more seriously.
I'm still waiting for an article on microstutter for the 7970/50, and of course for the new GK104, or whatever comes first.

I dont care if you dont take me seriously. Theres no microstutter with the 7970s on a detectable level and most people who actually have the cards will say the same thing

Whatever, you read an article and believe it to be gospel. Thats fine but dont preach about Crossfire without actually having personal experience with it, unless you want to be called out for being a moron by those who have experience
post #26 of 115
This is only a PR stunt by nVidia - had nVidia been in the same situation, I'm sure they would've done the same, namely release a card that handily beats the competition, but does not annihilate it. That would only result in an already saturated market, since people wouldn't be seeing the point in buying the next generation card if the current one (HD 7000-series) offers such awesome performance.
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Too much PR, people are not fools. Many are already not believe in what they say. Always: "We better, other is crap
post #28 of 115
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Originally Posted by Stuuut View Post

lol Nvidia telling us their card will be faster.... they better be faster thats the point of a new generation. Isn't it to beat the competitors next gen card

HD7000 and GTX 600 are in competition, they are the same generation 28nm, so it shouldnt be 'expected' that Kepler cards are better than HD7000, they are competing, they should be close.
post #29 of 115
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Originally Posted by mkclan View Post

Too much PR, people are not fools. Many are already not believe in what they say. Always: "We better, other is crap

There are also always people like you who dismiss it as a rumor e.g the people who said bulldozer would destroy sandybridge.
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Originally Posted by OwnedINC View Post

Whatever, you read an article and believe it to be gospel.

So instead of looking at some reasonable benchmarking and experiments, we should take your word? Please explain?
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Originally Posted by OwnedINC View Post

At least read the whole article before you try to post out of context snip-its of it.

Which part?

Here is another article on MS, linked page looks at SC2: http://techreport.com/articles.x/21516/9

Edit: You have to consider the following when looking at MS:
-Game engine
-Video card
-Monitor
-Software/hardware used to measure/detect MS
-Human being (if only 'observing' for MS rather than running tests)
Edited by thematrix606 - 1/25/12 at 3:48am
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