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This might carry some weight if only Nvidi didn't cash out all their reputation chips against Charlie/SA in the FERMI days.
    
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Sounds like nVidia is trying to get people who are thinking of waiting for Kepler to hold off on buying a 79xx card.
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Originally Posted by Arni90 View Post

That "review" is so very wrong on a lot of levels:
3-way CFX does not eliminate microstutter, not by a long shot. In my experience it's actually worse.
SLI is not smoother at 60 fps than CFX at 60 fps, it all depends on the game played. In my experience, it's just as horrible on either side.
Saying SLI has less microstutter than CFX based on framerate readings is the most idiotic assumption I've ever seen. When they don't even number the graphs I don't know if I should even be reading the article.

Yes Tri-Fire DOES eliminate microstutter to a degree that it is absolutely unnoticeable. Just because of your experiences or lack of tweaking know-how, don't speak for all of us or make broad statements such as those, and attempt to discredit a respected site such as Tom's.
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Originally Posted by jprovido View Post

typical nvidia. I remember the 5870 release they said the same thing. after a long wait we got the gtx 480. we all know how it did with a the competition. it was supposed to blow the 5870 away and was released long after it but we all know what performance we got AND the heat and power consumption. and this is coming from a guy with two gtx 480's.

Except the 480 after proper drivers did beat the 5870 and it was worth while if you picked it up at the right price. Some say the 480 lost because of its insane power draw and heat dissipation but in my eyes on a purely performance basis nvidia stuck to their words... after 3 months of release tongue.gif
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Just make sure you dont set yourselves up for failure, nvidia. The more banter you spout with your PR agents, the worse it'll be for you. Just saying.
    
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Quote:
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Just make sure you dont set yourselves up for failure, nvidia. The more banter you spout with your PR agents, the worse it'll be for you. Just saying.

I'm sure they've seen how burned AMD was when hyping up Bulldozer.
post #67 of 115
I never understood what was the need of releasing a new architecture, i still can play bf3 with a 6990 on my sammy 950d at 90fps and up. Also used to play on a 27 planar with a 570 sli setup at 60 fps steady. My pc is not getting a gpu upgrade until what i have cant play a game, and it seems is gonna be in a long time.
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post #68 of 115
Nothing to do here.

In other news, Apple is claiming that the next revision of OS X will blow Windows 8 away by incorporating core components that will allow it to run Windows programs.
In other news, Audi is claiming that the latest BMW 7 Series isn't as capacious and as nimble as its A8.
In other news, Anon says SOPA tastes like a bug in the mouth.

They all sound similar, don't they?
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lol AMD is playing everyone like a fool with these 7970's. they didn't include a whole shader cluster and most likely downclocked these "Beastly OC" cards to remain in a specific performance margin - faster than a 580 but slower than the 6990. when nvidia launches their cards, AMD will release an 8970 with the added shaders and higher clocks, the way it should have been originally. everyone will say that it's a natural evolution of the design, 6month revision, etc. etc. but in truth they already have it.

dont be the sucker then ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by superericla View Post

If AMD had spent all of the extra diespace on graphics performance the 7900 series would be a lot faster. Why they aren't is because AMD spent a larger percentage of the die on compute to catch up to Nvidia in that aspect.

and you know that because your an engineer ??
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SLI does have signifcantly less microstutter, its a fact. Microstutter cant be measured / compared in a FPS reading, thats two totally different things and thats why this Toms Hardware review is totally wrong on every aspect since they are actually showing nothing else but the actual FPS across a certain time. They really believe a drop in your FPS is microstuttering but its not.
Microstuttering is simply the variation of frametimes between the two (or more) GPUs caused by inefficient communication.
For example GPU 1 renders frame 1 within 12 milliseconds while the next frame rendered by GPU 2 takes 30 or more milliseconds and so on. One frame will always be slower than the other and hence why there will be a small (hence micro) stutter. It's basically the delta between each frametime which causes this. It has absolutely nothing to do with FPS drops or something like that, it appears everywhere, at 60 fps, at 100 fps, yes even at 1000 fps, theres no limit.

Everyone that tries to use this 'definition' (I use that term very loosely) for "microstutter" seems to be missing a key detail: Even with 1 GPU, you're going to have the same millisecond discrepancies from one frame to the next. So, if this were 'Microstutter' - you'd be experiencing it on single GPU setups as well.

Just because it's a single GPU doesn't mean it's spitting out frames #1, #2, and #3 at precisely 15ms each. Quite the opposite, actually.

That said, I haven't experienced a single second of 'Microstutter' on my 460s.
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