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well, either my video card died or the motherboard pci-e slot did... I got minimal and live centos live-usb images to work with xen which was cool. From there allmusers would have to do is install it on the hard disk. I am still working on some scripts, but I have a working kernel compiled that is very stable. I had it running for weeks without errors. I am sure it would go longer, but my video card died and I had to shutdown to assess the situation. I am looking into a completely new setup and salvaging this system for family or to part out. I was really hoping to wait for haswell to upgrade, but I may try something sooner.
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Anyone looking at my sig system know if if this is possible for my rig?
    
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Originally Posted by Gen. Gustav Zenlav View Post

Anyone looking at my sig system know if if this is possible for my rig?

Pretty sure it is. Look into your bios. If you see a vt-d option it should be since it is fully dependent on the motherboard northbridge on your setup. I seem to remember the big bang boards having a looooot of features too so there is a good chance.
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Thanks now i have some tinkering to do
    
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well, either my video card died or the motherboard pci-e slot did... I got minimal and live centos live-usb images to work with xen which was cool. From there allmusers would have to do is install it on the hard disk. I am still working on some scripts, but I have a working kernel compiled that is very stable. I had it running for weeks without errors. I am sure it would go longer, but my video card died and I had to shutdown to assess the situation. I am looking into a completely new setup and salvaging this system for family or to part out. I was really hoping to wait for haswell to upgrade, but I may try something sooner.

Sorry to hear the video card died, or the PCI slot. Isn't there a way to check and replace the faulty component and continue? It sounds like you are going to start with a new system.

Anyway, hope things work out.
post #316 of 815
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Originally Posted by Gen. Gustav Zenlav View Post

Thanks now i have some tinkering to do

I gather from your signature that you have a i7 920 and a Nvidia graphics card.

Regarding CPU, check out http://ark.intel.com and look for VT-d. If it's available (and can be enabled in your BIOS), it's a good starting point.

Regarding your Nvidia graphics card, it may work, though it could be demanding. Most AMD cards are easier to handle, except Nvidia "multi-OS" cards like the Quadro 2000 and some more expensive models.

@dizzy4: Have you got any new information on VGA passthrough for Nvidia cards? Has there been any progress with the hypervisor (i.e. 4.2)?
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Does anyone know if it would be possible to install Linux/Xen to a separate drive (I have a 120GB SSD that I could wipe and install to), then create a DomU that has control of the Intel motherboard RAID controller so that I can convert my physical Windows 7 install into a VM? It would be extemely excellent if that was actually possible, but I'm not sure if you can allow a VM to have the physical RAID array without having a true hardware RAID controller.

I'll experiment with Xen whether I can work out a way to convert the physical system into a VM anyway, but it would certainly make it easier to convert to Xen if there was a way to give the RAID array to one of the VMs. If I like the way Xen works, then I'll grab an AMD GPU or two. smile.gif
post #318 of 815
I everyone here
I just found this really interesting thread, i didn't read everything but i'm sure it's full of usefull info smile.gif

I'm not new to virtualisation, i've done alot of it over VMWare Softs, under windowson my own and under thier unix system for servers for work, but i'm new to xen and the concept of pci passthrough.
I prefer Debian rather than Fedora, so I managed to created my own config, it's VT-x Enabled, but unfortunatly i brought a i5 2500K a year ago, when i've built my computer a year ago.

This is my actual Configuration :
CPU
Intel i5 2500 (K) @ 3.3 Ghz
Motherboard
GigabyteGA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 (BIOS Version : F9 OFW) (non VT-d Enabled)
RAM
Crucial Ballistix DDR3 2 x 2 Go PC12800
GPU
ATI - Radeon HD5770
Intel - HD3000
Storage
SSD - OCZ Vertex 4 128GB
HDD - WD Velociraptor 150GB
HDD - WD Scorpio Black 250Go (Almost Dead)

In the next days, I'm going to get a 2500 non-K from a friend that just brought one and didn't get the K version so i'll be able to test the VT-d. I'll have to get a modified version from my BIOS but i heard on the internet that a guy on the Gigabyte forums have the possibility to create custom bios.

I Also recently brought 2 screens recently, curently one is on my Intel CPU, and the 2 others are on the HD5770, I'm gonna upgrade for a HD7770, but since ATI GPU seems to be fine in xen, that's not a problem. So my main problem now is about my triple-screen. As far as you know it guys, what will I be capable of doing with 3 screen ?

In the end, I would like to have a Dual-Screen Linux to dev some softs in Ruby, a Single screen for for my Media (One of my screen is actually a TV) probably under Linux, and another VM under windows for Gaming that will use the Velociraptor for games storage and that could be either on the TV for multiplayer games with controlers or on my main screen.
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Originally Posted by B4dn4z0 View Post

In the end, I would like to have a Dual-Screen Linux to dev some softs in Ruby, a Single screen for for my Media (One of my screen is actually a TV) probably under Linux, and another VM under windows for Gaming that will use the Velociraptor for games storage and that could be either on the TV for multiplayer games with controlers or on my main screen.

You can give one graphics card to one VM. That means that you could use the iGPU in the i5-2500 for one screen (or multiple screens if your motherboard happens to have multiple DVI or HDMI outputs) and you could use the 5770 (or the 7770 if you replace the 5770) for two or three more screens. If your motherboard has room for more than one GPU, you could use both the 5770 and the 7770, which would allow you to have screens set up for three different VMs*.

The bottom line is that one GPU is owned by one VM. If one GPU can support multiple monitors, then you can hook those monitors up to the VM that controls the GPU. You can't give one screen on a GPU to one VM and another screen on the same GPU to a different VM. I haven't heard anything about whether one VM can have control of multiple GPUs, though that is theoretically possible. As I understand it, no one has reported on whether SLI or CrossFireX works.

* I'm not sure if Xen is capable of giving away multiple GPUs to multiple VMs. I assume it can, but I've read conflicting stories, so I can't be sure. It may be that I was reading that you can't give multiple GPUs to a single VM, or I may have been reading specifically about an Nvidia problem that doesn't exist with AMD GPUs. I have not actually tried to set up a Xen machine, so I can only discuss "theory".
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Originally Posted by N0BOX View Post

You can give one graphics card to one VM. That means that you could use the iGPU in the i5-2500 for one screen (or multiple screens if your motherboard happens to have multiple DVI or HDMI outputs) and you could use the 5770 (or the 7770 if you replace the 5770) for two or three more screens. If your motherboard has room for more than one GPU, you could use both the 5770 and the 7770, which would allow you to have screens set up for three different VMs*.

Okay, For the moment, i have a 2 digital output on the embedded and 3 on the 5770, and maybe 4 more if i remove my audio card to keep the old graphics and the new one (Mini-ATX board).

Once a VM is linked to a graphic card, what really happend ? Does it go fullscreen on the screens that are connected to the card ? Am i still in within th window of my vnc client, like another VM ? or should i directly go start writing a tool to attach/deattach GPU to VMs and launching them direclty fullscreen in xserver on my Dom0 Host ?
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