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IPC is worst than original Phenom, no where near C2D. An 8 core C2D @ 4.6ghz would literally slaughter any BD...
Just sayin.
AMD needs to engineer a better core. They've already tackled how to get more of them.

BD's IPC is actually about 3% faster than original Phenom in Cinebench at least on top of clocking 2GHz higher, but I agree that they need to work on single-threaded performance.
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I'm excited about the BD revisions myself, can't wait to see how they perform. And thanks Usario and mikezachlowe2004, the thread needs more level headed informed guys like you both. I like how you guys state the facts and leave the emotion out of this. cheers thumb.gif
 
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post #53 of 69
Ok let's try this again.
This thread is about BULLDOZER patches. Not about a 2500k, not about any intel processors.
Out of 121 posts that were in here when this was locked, 53 remain. Let's keep this on topic this time eh?
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Looks like you double posted their. KarmaKiller. tongue.gif
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Okay, so, AMD claims that BD's lackluster performance is because of Windows not handling the CPU correctly. A couple hotfixes and UEFI updates later, and we've only gained very marginal performance increase.

So, I'm wondering why AMD doesn't release their own quick Linux distro that does utilize BD how it's supposed to be. That way, AMD can at least say, "Here's how BD is supposed to perform. Here's the proof and a Live distro you can download to test it yourself."
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Okay, so, AMD claims that BD's lackluster performance is because of Windows not handling the CPU correctly. A couple hotfixes and UEFI updates later, and we've only gained very marginal performance increase.
So, I'm wondering why AMD doesn't release their own quick Linux distro that does utilize BD how it's supposed to be. That way, AMD can at least say, "Here's how BD is supposed to perform. Here's the proof and a Live distro you can download to test it yourself."

AMD said that an improved scheduler would only provide 1-3% gains.

No one should expect major gain since this only fixes issues with medium threaded workloads. No software will improve single-threaded or heavily threaded workloads.
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AMD said that an improved scheduler would only provide 1-3% gains.
No one should expect major gain since this only fixes issues with medium threaded workloads. No software will improve single-threaded or heavily threaded workloads.

Whelp, on the bright side, they've set the bar so low for themselves that their next generation CPU should blow people's minds. tongue.gif
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Okay, so, AMD claims that BD's lackluster performance is because of Windows not handling the CPU correctly. A couple hotfixes and UEFI updates later, and we've only gained very marginal performance increase.
So, I'm wondering why AMD doesn't release their own quick Linux distro that does utilize BD how it's supposed to be. That way, AMD can at least say, "Here's how BD is supposed to perform. Here's the proof and a Live distro you can download to test it yourself."

AMD said that an improved scheduler would only provide 1-3% gains.

No one should expect major gain since this only fixes issues with medium threaded workloads. No software will improve single-threaded or heavily threaded workloads.

AMD never claimed awe-inspiring gains with this... At least they are working on something though.
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AMD said that an improved scheduler would only provide 1-3% gains.
No one should expect major gain since this only fixes issues with medium threaded workloads. No software will improve single-threaded or heavily threaded workloads.

They actually claimed an up 10% uplift with the scheduler.
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6. It has been stated that Bulldozer will see improvements in performance with the Windows 8 scheduler. Would you elaborate?

Gabe Gravning, Senior Product Marketing Manager, AMD - We worked with Microsoft to improve the way threads are scheduled with the "Bulldozer" architecture in Windows 8®. In Windows 7, workloads are simply executed sequentially across the cores. The Windows 8 scheduler is optimized for the "Bulldozer" architecture and will distribute the workload across each core pair first and then each core resulting in better threaded performance.

For example, in testing by AMD with the AMD FX-8150, we are seeing up to 10% uplift on a number of games with the Windows 8 Developer Preview compared to Windows® 7. Of course, results do vary.

We are also working with Microsoft on a scheduler update for Windows 7 that will be available soon.
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Up to 10 % in some, which has been shown, but across the board, average of 2-3%
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