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If games move. Windows is done.

Hardly. We are talking about an OS with roughly 90% world market share. Windows is here for a long while yet.
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If games move. Windows is done.

I wouldn't say that. Too many enterprises are invested in Windows and Windows-based apps.

But if games move off the PC, that will definitely hurt them. Just like if people learned how really easy it is to install a video card or memory modules, Dell would lose a lot of money.

I showed my co-worker the other day: I can buy parts to build a PC (at retail price) to the same spec as a basic Dell PC for about $90 less. I pay $90 for the OS and it's even. And I looked at him and said "Dell gets the OS for 1/3 of that...and buys standard PC configs in lots of 50,000. Then, look at what they sell to governments for. Now. think of how much they must pay to still be making a profit.."

My co-worker is gonna let me build his next PC, I think. lachen.gif
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Hardly. We are talking about an OS with roughly 90% world market share. Windows is here for a long while yet.

True. But, it used to be 95+%.

Their total dominance is slipping. They have another decade...or a little more...if they don't learn to satisfy all their customers rather than try to shoe-horn them into 1 interface that makes their profitability higher.
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Hardly. We are talking about an OS with roughly 90% world market share. Windows is here for a long while yet.

Oh it would not be over night...that is for sure, but MS could look up from their tablets one day to see that Linux was on 20% of the home PCs and not be in a position to do anything about it gaining more.

It is really just my hope covering up my fear...that Apple some how takes over the PC gaming market.
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I just hope Paramount fails miserably with $4 per movie. That's absurd, when you can go to a Redbox and get a DVD at just about any supermarket or convenience store down the road for $1 or $2.
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I just hope Paramount fails miserably with $4 per movie. That's absurd, when you can go to a Redbox and get a DVD at just about any supermarket or convenience store down the road for $1 or $2.

You mean...go...outside? Out there? *shudders*

I just am liking that they did it at all. I just hope that they don't keep the prices were they are and force it to fail and then all of Hollywood starts to use it as an example that the business model isn't any good and an excuse to never try it again.
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post #36 of 48
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You mean...go...outside? Out there? *shudders*
I just am liking that they did it at all. I just hope that they don't keep the prices were they are and force it to fail and then all of Hollywood starts to use it as an example that the business model isn't any good and an excuse to never try it again.

Well, most people do leave...to attend class...or work...or get food from the store...or get TP to wipe their butt. lachen.gif

Fact is, the movie industry and the internet providers will be at odds soon. Even with great compression, a Blu-ray quality movie will be huge. And with the datacaps almost all ISPs are implementing, the model of streaming multiple movies per week doesn't jive.

Government needs to step in and force ISPs to have set, 24/7 speeds. Period. Otherwise, I see bandwidth caps as the ISP's way of interfering with other company's businesses. Companies often pay for huge bandwidth connections. To throttle/cap their consumers is an ISP taking their money, then purposefully instituting policies that interfere with their right to deliver through the channel they have paid for.

If AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, or Time-Warner ever get in bed with Netflix, Redbox, etc., on the streaming side of things, you'll see a huge federal class action suit...guaranteed.
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I just hope Paramount fails miserably with $4 per movie. That's absurd...

I can't believe this. $4 is not an outrageous sum of money for a rental of an HD film. Also included is this feature if you buy a DVD/Blu-ray:
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Ultraviolet ties in disc purchases with downloads. Buy, say, a Blu-ray Disc of a supported movie, and you'll get the right to stream it and download it for free too.

I find this to be a huge plus. Sadly the thing that would be holding it back is the file format. I don't think I would be able to play it in Linux, and so that would be a huge issue for me.
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I can't believe this. $4 is not an outrageous sum of money for a rental of an HD film. Also included is this feature if you buy a DVD/Blu-ray:
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Ultraviolet ties in disc purchases with downloads. Buy, say, a Blu-ray Disc of a supported movie, and you'll get the right to stream it and download it for free too.
I find this to be a huge plus. Sadly the thing that would be holding it back is the file format. I don't think I would be able to play it in Linux, and so that would be a huge issue for me.

I don't think the rental price is that bad...it is equal or better than a lot of pay per view. It is the buying for $20 I think is a little high. I highly doubt it will be as high a quality copy as you would get on a blu ray disk

I missed that part about buying a blu ray and getting the download too. That would be great. I am sitting over a friends house and want to watch a movie...so I just log into my account and have my movie collection. kind of like what I used to do with Netflix insta-watch
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I can't believe this. $4 is not an outrageous sum of money for a rental of an HD film. Also included is this feature if you buy a DVD/Blu-ray:

I can buy (that means unlimited views) movies on DVD and Blu-Ray for $25 and under. That's a max of 3 times you could view 1 movie and save. But, some movies I got on DVD at Wal-Mart before for $11 for 4...that's $2.75 each. Blu-rays for $5-6 bucks on sale sometimes.

If you're comparing this to a movie theatre only, it's not bad. I can even see it if you only ever watch a movie once in your life maybe.

But if you're looking at this from the practical aspect, i.e.- Paramount isn't only going to be showing new releases only, then you'll see what I mean.

Netflix - $8 a month unlimited
Redbox - $1 per movie rental
Retail sales - $2-25 per movie (means unlimited viewing until you wear out the disc...DVD and blu-ray)

So whether you're willing to get out of your house or not, you may well lose money if you go with their scheme. Unless Paramount doesn't participate with anyone else and keeps their content exclusive, they have no reason to charge $4...and even then, their competition is cheaper.

So, when you compare it to anything but the cost of going to see a new release in a theatre....it is absurd.
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I see $4 as a fair price for an HD movie download. I watch, maybe, one movie a month. MAYBE. It is within $2 of my alternative (redbox costs gas and time too) and is more convenient. Blockbuster used to be more than $4 for a 3 day rental @ VHS quality.

For some things like movies which I don't consume tons of, the price point below $10 is almost negligible.

Edit - I don't, however, expect to pay $4 for new releases and $4 for a 15 year old comedy.
    
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