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I see $4 as a fair price for an HD movie download. I watch, maybe, one movie a month. MAYBE. It is within $2 of my alternative (redbox costs gas and time too) and is more convenient. Blockbuster used to be more than $4 for a 3 day rental @ VHS quality.
For some things like movies which I don't consume tons of, the price point below $10 is almost negligible.
Edit - I don't, however, expect to pay $4 for new releases and $4 for a 15 year old comedy.

Just wanna make sure it was clear...source said:
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The studio said it is offering 60-odd titles initially, though there seem rather fewer when you look at the website. Films are priced at $20 (£13) for an HD copy and $13 (£8) for an SD version. Rent SD titles for $3 (£2.60) or view in HD for $4 (£1.90).

So...the *downloads* are not $4. That's a rental.

$3-4 vs $1-2. Unless it's a blizzard or pouring rain, I'd save the money and drive 1/2-3/4 of a mile each way and get a movie.

But then again, I don't mind wearing my lion houseshoes in public either cool.giflachen.gif
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Just wanna make sure it was clear...source said:
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The studio said it is offering 60-odd titles initially, though there seem rather fewer when you look at the website. Films are priced at $20 (£13) for an HD copy and $13 (£8) for an SD version. Rent SD titles for $3 (£2.60) or view in HD for $4 (£1.90).
So...the *downloads* are not $4. That's a rental.
$3-4 vs $1-2. Unless it's a blizzard or pouring rain, I'd save the money and drive 1/2-3/4 of a mile each way and get a movie.
But then again, I don't mind wearing my lion houseshoes in public either cool.giflachen.gif

Heh...I've seen people in bath robes and slippers at a Red Box before.

I have just gotten too accustomed to netflix movies in my mail box to do the redbox thing...and I've looked into a regular video rental store as I still happen to have one in the area, but it is just nuts. $4 for a new release rental and movies seem to stay on the new release shelf for several months. Netflix is usually a little slower getting the new release titles, but they have them long before a video store would have them at less than $4. Then there is netflix's selection. You aren't going to be able to stuff all that into a soda machine on the corner.

Heck, my wife and I are some times so busy that we forget to put the Netflix disks in the mail. Red Box or "Family Video" would probably be a disaster for us.
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What should happen (in my opinion) is the producers should get out of Hollywood and sell their flicks independently, similar to what Louis CK did with his most recent comedy release. Sell it independently, offer it without DRM restriction, let the buyer download the content, watch-stream-or-burn-instantly, at a competitive price to rentals and movie theaters (so in the $6-10 range), and offer a large inventory.

I mean in all honesty - I could watch triple-A titles outside of a movie theater without regret. Sure the sound system in every home may or may not resonate with the quality of in-theater movies, but given the horrible screenings I've seen in most major and low end theaters the screen quality is often horrible. The color is off, the screens are old, the digital ones are overly bright, etc. Let me watch it on my TV.

Oh and the audio you say? That's simple. There is no need for 5.1 or 7.1 or crazy channelized audio! If you take the software engineering of virtualized audio in a 2.0 format like the virtualized 3D audio heard here with headphones and expand that to low end or relatively middle of the road audio setups (without the need for headphones as in the link's case), and I think you have a winner.

Give people inexpensive options and they will spend money and more so if you keep adding to the offerings.

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Brilliant movies don't need Avatar-style CGI. In fact Avatar was a horrible movie (in my opinion) whereas 'Leaves of Grass' was much much much more entertaining and required little to no CGI. Look at transformers! Nothing but CGI! And it wasn't that great either! The first was done alright, but the sequels?! sicksmiley.png

Of course I realize everyone has different taste in movies but I'm just saying.....
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I personally feel the best way to go at it is Netflix's way, $8/mo for unlimited streaming? Yes.

 

If only more studios would realize that they'd benefit much better by going through netflix than selling DVDs at least a few months to a year after theater release.

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What should happen (in my opinion) is the producers should get out of Hollywood and sell their flicks independently, similar to what Louis CK did with his most recent comedy release. Sell it independently, offer it without DRM restriction, let the buyer download the content, watch-stream-or-burn-instantly, at a competitive price to rentals and movie theaters (so in the $6-10 range), and offer a large inventory.

Yes - give them what they want in a manner that facilitates them buying it.

People in the USA blow money all over the place, that's what they are designed to do. You give them an outlet, they spend their money.
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Brilliant movies don't need Avatar-style CGI

CG is amazing, I love it, but I agree that you don't need it. Of the movies that I consider to be excellent, very, very few of them showcase CG.
    
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Here's the problem:

Sure, I could pay £12 for a single HD film, or I could pay a smaller amount for a Cyberlocker or VPN service and get as many as I can download while the former services still last.

That's what the IP industry needs to compete with, and they need to compete, not litigate. This service is a thumb to the nose of everyday people.Yet when this doesn't catch on because the service in no way compares to piracy, they'll blame pirates instead of their own misgivings.

Try these out for prices/services:

Premium accounts

(1, 2, 3, 6, 12 months + Lifetime)
£4.99 - £9.99 per month

Access to TV programs for free and "rental" of up to three SD films a week, one HD film a week inclusive in price.

Free Accounts

Access to TV and Film listings, watch up to 120 minutes of TV per 24 hours


Purchases
SD film price £3.99
HD film price £7.99

All purchases work a little bit like Steam. The app you use to download will also play the content (perhaps even enable other players or something later) and only requires an active internet connection once every 28 days in order to licence and playback the content. Licence keys could be generated that enable other players to playback the content (for instance, VLC, so one could use VLC Direct with their Android Phone or iPhone)

Rental Prices
SD = £1.99 per 24 hours
HD = £3.99 per 24 hours

Rentals work from 24 hours from the second you first click play. Allowing you to rental a film in a sale (rental sale?!) and watch it later without having to rush it.





The only problems I see are each studio doing their own service. I wouldn't pay more than £9.99 for any service and it would have to be a unified music, TV and movie service. The content industry has to compete with piracy. They cannot and will not succeed in bullying people into doing things their way. Their way doesn't work and too much light has been shed on the inequalities in their industry, people can't go back to paying £18 for a Audio CD and £20 for a DVD Movie, not while the artist or writer gets a 0.X% cut and the big bosses take much more than they earn.
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You would have to be a registered pirate for that to work..?


No. You're not quite getting it. Registered pirates get a further $2 discount. If you're not already registered, you can head over to their website and register now!

Seriously though, the prices are just too high for mainstream use.
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I'd consider signing up if it was a $5 monthly fee and I could watch as many as possible in the best quality possible.

It's only ~60 titles anyway.
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