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And some people think they can browse without A/V. rolleyes.gif
lol.

I do... never been infected...
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And some people think they can browse without A/V. rolleyes.gif
lol.

I do... never been infected...
Ignorance is bliss
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Ignorance is bliss

I use Linux though so that goes a long way to removing threats... although I know I am still immune to some, I careful where I go online and what I download.

I'm not ignorant, just don't need an AV product.
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It's done with the C:\ drive and hasn't found anything more, so it doesn't look like the infection was too bad, unless it's hiding somewhere on D:\ or E:\.
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Where were the threats located? MSE probably picked them up the second that MBAM tried to access them. Had you done a Full Scan with MSE recently?

Scan is still running, and yeah it's a full scan. Normally I just do a quick scan, but I got an odd Windows error a few minutes ago and ran a full scan to be safe. 5 threats and still scanning... sigh

Well It might be as simple as MBAM scanning files that MSE hadn't scanned yet and MSE scanning stuff as programs access it. MSE does the same thing to me when browsing old client-back-ups.

I have a couple external drives hooked up to my home server with client-pc back-ups. As soon as I even use Windows 7 search from my main rig, both my home server and my main rig's copy of MSE both pop up with threats.
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MSE prevents my Diablo 2 maphack from injecting threads to reveal the map, so I had to uninstall it.
    
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Most likely as MBAM scanned the files, MSE's realtime protection was triggered.
^this
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I use Linux though so that goes a long way to removing threats... although I know I am still immune to some, I careful where I go online and what I download.
I'm not ignorant, just don't need an AV product.
Linux itself will not remove the threat, it is merely making one more obscure, and to rely on such obscurity as one's security is bad practice--often times this will yield a very bad outcome. Also, one can never 'remove' the threat, or make oneself 'immune,' one is only able to mitigate the risk to an acceptable level through detection and eventually, a response to the threat.

So, if you don't 'need' an AV on your Linux install, I sure hope you're basing this on some other mitigation, because if you're purely basing this off of obscurity, then I'd hate to be you once you get under an attacker's crosshairs.
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^this
Linux isn't removing the threat, it is merely making one more obscure, and to rely on such obscurity as one's security is bad practice--often times this will yield a very bad outcome. Also, one can never 'remove' the threat, or make oneself 'immune,' one is only able to mitigate the risk to an acceptable level through detection and eventually, a response to the threat.
So, if you don't 'need' an AV on your Linux install, I sure hope you're basing this on some other mitigation, because if you're purely basing this off of obscurity, then I'd hate to be you once you get under an attackers crosshairs.

I never use AV. For a start I only do homework on this; which is backed up to a USB stick which is then removed. I have little programs; chrome, libreoffice, mahjong (love that game!) and a few other small ones. They are all free. Me getting a virus would actually be a good thing: it would make me "distro hop", enabling me to use more and different types of software.

If I get a Virus I just pop in another distro and away I go again smile.gif
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MSE when actually tested for detection isn't that great.
but people flock to it because its free and relatively lightweight.
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^this
Linux itself will not remove the threat, it is merely making one more obscure, and to rely on such obscurity as one's security is bad practice--often times this will yield a very bad outcome. Also, one can never 'remove' the threat, or make oneself 'immune,' one is only able to mitigate the risk to an acceptable level through detection and eventually, a response to the threat.
So, if you don't 'need' an AV on your Linux install, I sure hope you're basing this on some other mitigation, because if you're purely basing this off of obscurity, then I'd hate to be you once you get under an attacker's crosshairs.

Been using Linux my whole life and can honestly say have never gotten a virus on it. Started with Mandrake Linux nearly 10 years ago and used it up until about 3 years ago for mainstream, then switched to Arch Linux. Never used an AV on it, and the day I did decide to download an AV for it, it turned up empty. So 7 years that install lasted me and 7 years with no virus.

Linux can still get viruses yes, but the ones that can effect us are far and few between. Blame MS for taking market share, not enough of us Linux users to make a virus solely for Linux. That and the way Linux is set up makes it even harder for a virus to do anything. Unless you're surfing around the internet on Root.
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