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Hope it goes into effect.

People say for games, "Support the developers" when they go out and buy a used copy of the game pretty much all the time.

On the PC its not long for sales on steam.... plus money goes where it should.
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Not exactly fair evaluation. Xbox live charges to play, but other consoles do not. Also, your example would represent the extreme, and probably unlikely circumstance that you literally piss gold and manage to buy 180 games over 3 years at full price. The nifty thing about paying the extra £10 per game is that you can resell, unlike PC games. So assuming you manage to play through 5 games a month, it would be safe to say you can purchase a game and beat it while it still holds its value. You can take your console game to Gamestop or the alike and sell back for probably about £20. You just got yourself £3600 back.
PC gaming would then cost over £3000 more than console.

See below and take £105 for the xbox live membership off and add an extra £60 for a 160 GB PS3, believe it or not I know someone who does get an average of 5 games per month.
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It's pretty fair, he's looking at the most popular online console gaming service (XBLive) and he's looking at game purchases.
If you want to get into the buy/sell realm, you could say a computer could potentially make you a TON of money (ie. eBay).

This. My sigrig (excluding monitor, keyboard and mouse) cost £500ish if I wanted to I could sell it for £1500, That is £1K profit. An extra £1K per year (for better components) and because of the way Steam works you will be able to install the games on more than 1 PC. If the anti-used game system happens then there won't be any re-sale value for the console games.
    
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It's pretty fair, he's looking at the most popular online console gaming service (XBLive) and he's looking at game purchases.
If you want to get into the buy/sell realm, you could say a computer could potentially make you a TON of money (ie. eBay).

Your £1500 PC isn't going to sell on ebay for more than £3000, even parted out. So even if you do manage to sell, the point still stands that console gaming is cheaper.

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See below and take £105 for the xbox live membership off and add an extra £60 for a 160 GB PS3, believe it or not I know someone who does get an average of 5 games per month.
This. My sigrig (excluding monitor, keyboard and mouse) cost £500ish if I wanted to I could sell it for £1500, That is £1K profit. An extra £1K per year (for better components) and because of the way Steam works you will be able to install the games on more than 1 PC. If the anti-used game system happens then there won't be any re-sale value for the console games.
If you wanted to? If you could, then do it. Then make a better PC. Repeat the process and quit your job.
Edited by Zinxe - 1/25/12 at 3:27pm
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I'm still hoping there is an online distribution alternative in which games will be available instantly when released. I'd rather have more hdd space than a blu-ray player. I'm sick of disks in general.
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They might go with 2 version, offline version and online version of the console.
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Your £1500 PC isn't going to sell on ebay for more than £3000, even parted out. So even if you do manage to sell, the point still stands that console gaming is cheaper.

I was thinking more along the lines of making money with a computer. A living. I spend my entire work day on a computer that I then game on...

In other words, it's actually a useful device beyond video games, movies, and TV shows.

People seem to think that they save money buying a console for gaming. In reality, they already have a computer, if they had spent the price of a console more, they'd have a great computer that will probably outlast the console.

Consoles are the #1 biggest waste of money on this planet for gaming, and corporations love it. I will concede that they make great media centers, I use my PS3 as a media center and nothing more these days. When you look at it from that standpoint, they are a great value, but you are going to miss out on things like RAID that you could get from a PC media center (saves a lot of heartache).

If a person is buying a console for simplicity's sake, that's a completely different story, and one I understand. But in no way do consoles save the average person a single dime.
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Your £1500 PC isn't going to sell on ebay for more than £3000, even parted out. So even if you do manage to sell, the point still stands that console gaming is cheaper.

Yes you won't be able to sell it for double the price but you could still make huge profit.
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If you wanted to? If you could, then do it. Then make a better PC. Repeat the process and quit your job.

1. I don't have a proper bank account so I can't open a paypal to start selling and it's going to be too much work for me to just do that now
2. I haven't quite finished with it yet
3. Even when I have finished with it and I get a new one I am going to give my current sig rig to my dad, he needs a new computer.
4. Too much work to just quit a job or college to start selling for profit that will allow me to carry on and still afford things like food and hot water.
    
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Although I don't play my Xbox 360 much anymore I do log in every once in a while to check out the changes to the services they offer. I must say they seem to be accumulating a pretty large selection of downloadable full games on their online market.

I can only imagine this online market will be furthered with the Xbox 720, hopefully it will come standard with a pretty large hard drive.

Also, PC gaming will continue to be cheaper than console gaming. Much cheaper games (steam sales ect.), hardware lasts longer and cheaper upgrades.
Edited by james_ant - 1/25/12 at 3:57pm
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As far as the anti-used system goes. I remember people saying the same thing about the PS3 that the games would be locked to that console. Obviously that never happened.

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I was thinking more along the lines of making money with a computer. A living. I spend my entire work day on a computer that I then game on...
In other words, it's actually a useful device beyond video games, movies, and TV shows.
People seem to think that they save money buying a console for gaming. In reality, they already have a computer, if they had spent the price of a console more, they'd have a great computer that will probably outlast the console.
Consoles are the #1 biggest waste of money on this planet for gaming, and corporations love it. I will concede that they make great media centers, I use my PS3 as a media center and nothing more these days. When you look at it from that standpoint, they are a great value, but you are going to miss out on things like RAID that you could get from a PC media center (saves a lot of heartache).
If a person is buying a console for simplicity's sake, that's a completely different story, and one I understand. But in no way do consoles save the average person a single dime.

Xbox - $150
1 Yr Live - $40
2-3 used games - $60-70

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