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Too many conspiracy posts to read so.



Google how dare you make my life more convenient. HOW DARE YOU.



I read the new agreement and its actually not that bad.
 
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But I will defend all day the stance that these are the types of companies and corporate changes that we as consumers and Americans should be concerned about.

You should perhaps be concerned about Google track of everything you do online, but there's no reason to be more concerned just because of this policy change. They are not collecting any additional data, they are simply using what they have more or less uniformly. There is little point maintaining data in various formats to satisfy different applications when they are capable of accessing the data in the same way. It makes maintaining all of these services much simpler.

I personally detest the pursuit of convenience and excessive dependence on technology so I don't use enough of Google's services to be bothered by this even if it was a serious matter.
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While I'll agree that to put information online is to, by its nature, forfeit your privacy, the manner in which companies use that information is up to them. The very fact that there are analog services (like bing and like mapquest just as examples) which don't collect your usage data, track it, and then attempt to digest it to insert their specific ads to you refutes the idea that you are somehow forced by the nature of the medium to accept these losses of privacy. While I don't look at this conversation as an argument about whether google is being evil, or whether they're selling my information to blackmarket homeland security agencies in some seedy dark alley, or whatever convoluted thing we're apparently arguing about, I think the majority of the hostility from people in this thread is a blind, unwavering support for a company - at the expense of what I view as a critical issue in the 21st century.
 
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You should perhaps be concerned about Google track of everything you do online, but there's no reason to be more concerned just because of this policy change. They are not collecting any additional data, they are simply using what they have more or less uniformly. There is little point maintaining data in various formats to satisfy different applications when they are capable of accessing the data in the same way. It makes maintaining all of these services much simpler.

My point exactly. If you dont want Google to have your data then dont sign up to begin with, this policy has nothing to do with that.
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In all universal reality if anyone (myself included and admittedly) really was concerned enough to the point where the protection of random data processed by the likes of searches (no matter what the search might be), partially or completely identifiable information via email service, or even the structure of data that becomes relevant to you personally in your online trials, tribulations and actions, then you should completely avoid the companies that pursue profit from use of that particular data set no matter whether it is collected freely by service agreement or paid for.

Simple as that.
    
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While I'll agree that to put information online is to, by its nature, forfeit your privacy, the manner in which companies use that information is up to them. The very fact that there are analog services (like bing and like mapquest just as examples) which don't collect your usage data, track it, and then attempt to digest it to insert their specific ads to you refutes the idea that you are somehow forced by the nature of the medium to accept these losses of privacy. While I don't look at this conversation as an argument about whether google is being evil, or whether they're selling my information to blackmarket homeland security agencies in some seedy dark alley, or whatever convoluted thing we're apparently arguing about, I think the majority of the hostility from people in this thread is a blind, unwavering support for a company - at the expense of what I view as a critical issue in the 21st century.

On the contrary, your attacks of criticism in this case is unfound. While agree that privacy and your online identity are important topics of the current age, this new policy truly has nothing to do with that, but rather the method in which Google will store information throughout the services. As such, your argument, though possibly valid in the right venue, is lost here as you are arguing something not covered in this thread.
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well, to be fair, your point was that I was a lying, idiot fanboy...

but, what can I say.

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...I think the majority of the hostility from people in this thread is a blind, unwavering support for a company - at the expense of what I view as a critical issue in the 21st century.

Well there is a significant percentage of members of this forum with blind, unwavering hatred of Apple, so blind, unwavering opinions are rather common.
    
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On the contrary, your attacks of criticism in this case is unfound. While agree that privacy and your online identity are important topics of the current age, this new policy truly has nothing to do with that, but rather the method in which Google will store information throughout the services. As such, your argument, though possibly valid in the right venue, is lost here as you are arguing something not covered in this thread.

Google's storing of information has something to do with privacy and your online identity. Changes to the manner in which google stores and accesses your information has something to do with privacy and your online identity. If you go back and read my posts, you will see that I was never unduly critical of google, nor did I misstate what they're doing here. My argument is valid as this is a discussion about changes to information gathering and usage by an online company which gathers and uses personal data.

And with that, I'm done. I'm truly sorry if I offended you.

[Edit] - for the record, I wouldn't trust Apple with my personal data like that either. And +rep to GanjaSMK. I think I agree with him.
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Google's storing of information has something to do with privacy and your online identity. Changes to the manner in which google stores and accesses your information has something to do with privacy and your online identity. If you go back and read my posts, you will see that I was never unduly critical of google, nor did I misstate what they're doing here. My argument is valid as this is a discussion about changes to information gathering and usage by an online company which gathers and uses personal data.
And with that, I'm done. I'm truly sorry if I offended you.
[Edit] - for the record, I wouldn't trust Apple with my personal data like that either. And +rep to GanjaSMK. I think I agree with him.

This then will also be my final post regarding this discussion.

No changes in Googles methods of data collection are occuring. As such your identity remains the same. The information someone gave Google on their Gmail account has not changed. They have not searched through emails to find more data to store. They are not reading chat logs to find more data. The information that the same person gave to Youtube will not change either. All that is changing is the way that data is store internally to Google. Let me make this clear, this has to do with the way data is STORED. This has absolutly nothing to do with collection of data. This has everything to do with how that data, which is already being stored, is related to the products you use of Google's. Thus, there are no changes to information gathering, the data you give to Google is still the data you give to Google.

For the record, you have not offended me.
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