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This sounds like a good thing.... I don't understand why OP is going nuts?

Because the OP loves apple, and since Steve Jobs hated Android and by extension Google, he must too.
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Lol try harder OP
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Not bad if it stays within google
    
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IDK. I am not, for one, taking the hysterical stance that the OP or some of the first people to post in the thread took. However, be careful when you trivialize things like right to privacy. We're not THAT removed from the Patriot Act and some of this more nefariously vague definitions in its first iteration where "cross-departmental" information sharing and sweeping authority for warrants had all sorts of gross implications. And more recently (and arguably more importantly) not that far removed from the whole Sony information leak. Will I stop using google because they're streamlining their content? Probably not, no. But I don't use Facebook, because I find the thing to be an artificial way to market to me and find out my personal information. And I don't like, at its core, the idea of a company with such far reach quietly monitoring every single thing I do online. The abstract concept is an issue, and as time goes on, and profit models and corporate reaches evolve, I think we would do well to take care of the implications. It's true for any cloud model (Apple's as well).

Call me chicken little, I guess.
 
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Every innovative company tries to make everything simplistic and close to the same. MSOffice 07,10, etc...made the ribbons to make it feel more like a web browser so that people that aren't familiar with the program can look at the program and be able to figure it out from what they know. There is nothing bad about unification.
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As long as the information is only used for logical purposes (read: improving search results and ads), and nobody actually sees it, I don't mind. It makes no sense to care.

Their privacy policy still says they don't sell it to anyone, so who cares?

Not all moves that increase profit are bad for customers. This is one of those moves that doesn't hurt customers. The key thing to remember about Google is that they benefit only when you see content that interests you, because they make their money from ads. For most companies, profit and what users really want conflicts at some point, but for Google the two directly coincide. User sees better search results, more relevant video suggestions, better ads, Google gets more money. User enjoys using Google's services because they function well and are convenient - Google gets more money.

Good business models are symbiotic. Bad business models are ones that take users' money for granted (subscription-based) or rely on products becoming outdated - in both cases, the company is encouraged to withhold features for enough time or until sales begin to drop so that users throw money at them again. A symbiotic business model, like Google's, provides an incentive for keeping the user happy at all times, because you need the user to use your service ALL THE TIME. You can't let them get uninterested and frustrated and THEN relieve these issues, because you're losing money.

But it is kinda scary. Who knows what Google is doing behind closed doors, just because they can. And no, knowing someone who works at Google doesn't qualify you to judge - if they are doing something we wouldn't like, then only a small, trusted group knows about it.
Edited by Coma - 1/25/12 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post

So if I'm never signed in to anything, or gmail, then they won't track any of the info on my like Google Maps, because I'm never signed in when I search for things? Right?
I sign in to Gmail, check my mail and sign out. So I'm safe right?

So is this guy safe then? What about situations like above where if you're not signed in, will they still collect data or is it non-identifiable data at that point?
    
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Well, as I said earlier, the biggest fears for me aren't even that google is going to get all creepy and MS on us and try to screw with us. It's that someone's going to hack their system with its gooey, gooey private information center, or that we're going to all basically be putting on a pair of blinders and earphones every time we go onto the internet, to receive our own custom-made, pre-digested personalized internet experience. But the real fear for either of those things comes in 10-20 years from now.
 
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@ganjaSMK I'm pretty sure when you use most google services (chrome does this) they give you a tracking cookie which finds your browsing data and then sends it back to google so they can use it to advertise to you. I would be surprised if they didn't do that with their other services as well, at least to the extent that they can quantify, enumerate and digest your usage data. To the extent that they can do that, for large numbers of people and ridiculously large volumes of incoming data, they'll try to collect as accurate a virtual fingerprint of you as they can. Now, don't get all Divinci Code or (input conspiracy movie name here) on us, but that's what they do - and as said by others above, that is incentivized by their profit model. They're not going to check for what brand of underwear you use unless they can try to help people sell you underwear (or unless they're required to by xyz governmental institution behind the scenes - I know they don't do that now, but who's to say where their moral conscience ends and pragmatism begins).
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I dropped Google a long time ago. For some reason I still use their search engine (anonymously).

We U.S. citizens have no rights.
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