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post #11 of 31
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Im not running an amd card, but i have read a few headlines about poor crossfire driver support. Im very confident in saying its not the cpu, I played it at stock settings so 3.3ghz since all cores are operating, it wont use turbo that way and my fps didnt drop. I know intel guys will bash on amd but on bf3 that will use all 6 cores your going to be fine. Even stock, and I was even running my memory at 1333mhz not even 1600mhz and still played great.
The last thing I can personally recommend is to eliminate the possibility of an unstable overclock and set it back to stock and play it. If your sure your settings are stable though you can ignore that. I personally run prime small fft AND blend test at least 1hr to ensure a stable overclock. I used to only do small fft but had the weirdest overclock related issue that only happened on IE9 while browsing, I was able to game fine but browsing high flash content web pages my system would shut off. Prime small fft passed 1hr, it was blend test that failed within 2mins. So now I always run both.
I would also try to keep temps under 55c just in case your running above that, technically amd says 62c but since your overclocking your already pushing the limits, having the temp low is your best friend.
Im personally recommending posting in the amd gpu section or doing some research in there, Im sure you will find its a driver issue.
Oh and thanks for the rep biggrin.gif

I already checked if it could be the drivers but all drivers give me the same performance (I do clean sweep btw) thats the reason I posted in the cpu section incase it could be a bottleneck for my crossfire or something else
post #12 of 31
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actually that would be interesting to see, I personally dont trust them either

Im just scared to mess with the voltage frown.gif
post #13 of 31
yahh..the auto never works..i just did it..first prime just errored and closed..
then i got bsod
read this guide

http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys/0_20

best i've ever seen biggrin.gif
Now if you'll excuse me..i have to load an overclock profile that actually works..
umm..btw..i highly recommend using those..
 
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yahh..the auto never works..i just did it..first prime just errored and closed..
then i got bsod
read this guide
http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys/0_20
best i've ever seen biggrin.gif
Now if you'll excuse me..i have to load an overclock profile that actually works..
umm..btw..i highly recommend using those..

+1 for doing OC thanks for guide smile.gif
post #15 of 31
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I already checked if it could be the drivers but all drivers give me the same performance (I do clean sweep btw) thats the reason I posted in the cpu section incase it could be a bottleneck for my crossfire or something else

Yeah check for an unstable overclock, since you used the auto utility, just try it at stock settings for now. We can help you out on your own overclock, its not too bad, you should be able to get 4.0ghz out of it, some guys even get 4.5ghz, Im stuck at 4.2ghz.

Cpu-nb does wonders too, overclocking that is a must. And luckily thuban cpu's like ours love to be at 2800+ mhz (2000mhz stock)

Like I said though the stock cpu speed should do good, you might have an unstable overclock if thats the case. Try going stock and play a bit.

I have thought I was getting pc performance issues but noticed it was the servers I played in. Try posting in the chat "anyone getting lag?" and see if others are having server issues.

So to sum it up:
1: set to stock and play
2: while playing at stock, if you still get lag/fps drop, post in the chat "anyone else getting lag?"

and see where that takes us. Next will be giving you a proper overclock. The eco cooler should be able to do 3.8-4.0ghz I imagine. The auto overclock is probably pumping too much voltage to be stable.

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yahh..the auto never works..i just did it..first prime just errored and closed..
then i got bsod
read this guide
http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys/0_20
best i've ever seen biggrin.gif
Now if you'll excuse me..i have to load an overclock profile that actually works..
umm..btw..i highly recommend using those..

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post #16 of 31
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Yeah check for an unstable overclock, since you used the auto utility, just try it at stock settings for now. We can help you out on your own overclock, its not too bad, you should be able to get 4.0ghz out of it, some guys even get 4.5ghz, Im stuck at 4.2ghz.
Cpu-nb does wonders too, overclocking that is a must. And luckily thuban cpu's like ours love to be at 2800+ mhz (2000mhz stock)
Like I said though the stock cpu speed should do good, you might have an unstable overclock if thats the case. Try going stock and play a bit.
I have thought I was getting pc performance issues but noticed it was the servers I played in. Try posting in the chat "anyone getting lag?" and see if others are having server issues.
So to sum it up:
1: set to stock and play
2: while playing at stock, if you still get lag/fps drop, post in the chat "anyone else getting lag?"
and see where that takes us. Next will be giving you a proper overclock. The eco cooler should be able to do 3.8-4.0ghz I imagine. The auto overclock is probably pumping too much voltage to be stable.
edit:
+rep thanks

Ok I guess Iam ready to do the proper overclock, as I tested my stock settings in BF3 about a week ago and I think 3.2ghz was doing a bottleneck for my CF, what would be a safe temp on a high load? and were should I start on my OC I know the a bit of the basics tongue.gif (also when I used auto to get 3.9 I got BSOD using prime)
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Im reading the guide but is there a way to just overclock it to 4ghz straight away and then stress test??
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yeah i was having the same problems as you' i just loaded BIOS defaults and upped my multi to x17 for 3.4 and playing battfield is perfect now.. i notice while im playin while i have core temp running on stockfan core is at 40-41c and my vcore is at 1.4v

now what can i do with my cpu/nb settings? and do i have to mess with HT
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Im reading the guide but is there a way to just overclock it to 4ghz straight away and then stress test??

Ok I would start by doing a fresh bios reset and set your memory settings up. I would then turn off cool n quiet and turbo.

I tend to pick a voltage I feel comfortable with and then set a healthy cpu overclock, if it doesnt boot I lower the overclock till it does, then you can fine tune it from there for true stability.

Try these settings to start:

bus= 200 (stock)
cpu multiplier= 20 (200x20=4000mhz)
cpu vcore/core voltage= 1.43 (it could take anywhere from 1.40-1.50v)

See if it boots. If it does run prime95 small fft for 10mins. If that passes its good enough for this point. If it doesnt you can try lowering to 3.8 or if you think you can keep it cool add more voltage. this cpu with the right cooling can take 1.55v 24/7 safe. I personally recommend NO MORE than 55c, I think ideal do really push the cpu is in the 40's or less, higher temps can effect your max stable overclock, damage wont occur so long as you dont go over 60c, but like I said I feel max is 55c for overclocking. Prime im 41-43c at 1.488v and bf3 39-41c depending on room temp.

Now if prime small fft passes try overclocking higher to find the max that voltage can take, it will help see how far from instability we are too.

bus= 200 (stock)
cpu multiplier= 20.5 (200x20.5=4100mhz)

You can keep adding voltage untill you hit 1.50v, but many people go as high as 1.55v for 24/7 use, safe limit is 1.50 though, 1.55v is for "ocn safe" limit lol

Keep that process up, if your lucky you will get over 4200mhz (4.2ghz)

After you find max cpu core speed and make it stable (if your impatient do 10-30mins stress test) you can mess with the cpu-nb.....


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yeah i was having the same problems as you' i just loaded BIOS defaults and upped my multi to x17 for 3.4 and playing battfield is perfect now.. i notice while im playin while i have core temp running on stockfan core is at 40-41c and my vcore is at 1.4v
now what can i do with my cpu/nb settings? and do i have to mess with HT

cpu-nb should be able to go as high as 2800-3200mhz with thuban cpu's (x6)

I would overclock this similar to the cpu. Once the cpu is stable go straight to 2600mhz which would only need a small bump in voltage.

2600mhz probably 1.20-1.28v on the cpu-nb

MAKE SURE its the cpu-nb and NOT the NB voltage, those are two different things. Do a 10min stress test with prime95 small fft then blend test for 10mins untill you find what your looking for. Benchmarks to see improvement will be "maxxmem-preview" or another memory benchmark.

Keep increasing the clock till you get unstable then back down or add voltage, I personally run 3055mhz cpu-nb with 1.35v. Im not sure if its recommended to have this voltage higher than the cpu core voltage, so to be safe keep it under the cpu core voltage.

Im at 4244mhz
cpu 1.481v
cpu-nb 3055mhz
cpu-nb 1.350

to both of you guys, this is a crash course into, there are many ways to get specific overclocks stable. This is just more beginner oriented i guess you can say.

Enjoy
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Ok I would start by doing a fresh bios reset and set your memory settings up. I would then turn off cool n quiet and turbo.
I tend to pick a voltage I feel comfortable with and then set a healthy cpu overclock, if it doesnt boot I lower the overclock till it does, then you can fine tune it from there for true stability.
Try these settings to start:
bus= 200 (stock)
cpu multiplier= 20 (200x20=4000mhz)
cpu vcore/core voltage= 1.43 (it could take anywhere from 1.40-1.50v)
See if it boots. If it does run prime95 small fft for 10mins. If that passes its good enough for this point. If it doesnt you can try lowering to 3.8 or if you think you can keep it cool add more voltage. this cpu with the right cooling can take 1.55v 24/7 safe. I personally recommend NO MORE than 55c, I think ideal do really push the cpu is in the 40's or less, higher temps can effect your max stable overclock, damage wont occur so long as you dont go over 60c, but like I said I feel max is 55c for overclocking. Prime im 41-43c at 1.488v and bf3 39-41c depending on room temp.
Now if prime small fft passes try overclocking higher to find the max that voltage can take, it will help see how far from instability we are too.
bus= 200 (stock)
cpu multiplier= 20.5 (200x20.5=4100mhz)
You can keep adding voltage untill you hit 1.50v, but many people go as high as 1.55v for 24/7 use, safe limit is 1.50 though, 1.55v is for "ocn safe" limit lol
Keep that process up, if your lucky you will get over 4200mhz (4.2ghz)
After you find max cpu core speed and make it stable (if your impatient do 10-30mins stress test) you can mess with the cpu-nb.....
cpu-nb should be able to go as high as 2800-3200mhz with thuban cpu's (x6)
I would overclock this similar to the cpu. Once the cpu is stable go straight to 2600mhz which would only need a small bump in voltage.
2600mhz probably 1.20-1.28v on the cpu-nb
MAKE SURE its the cpu-nb and NOT the NB voltage, those are two different things. Do a 10min stress test with prime95 small fft then blend test for 10mins untill you find what your looking for. Benchmarks to see improvement will be "maxxmem-preview" or another memory benchmark.
Keep increasing the clock till you get unstable then back down or add voltage, I personally run 3055mhz cpu-nb with 1.35v. Im not sure if its recommended to have this voltage higher than the cpu core voltage, so to be safe keep it under the cpu core voltage.
Im at 4244mhz
cpu 1.481v
cpu-nb 3055mhz
cpu-nb 1.350
to both of you guys, this is a crash course into, there are many ways to get specific overclocks stable. This is just more beginner oriented i guess you can say.
Enjoy

Thanks, so the cpu voltage I shouldnt go under 1.40 and not go over 1.50 and on cpu-nb I shouldnt go under 1.20 and over 1.35 also what is fft and blend test, I hope my cooler can do it because with the one I got when I ran prime I went over 60c (that was auto overclock)
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