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Obviously, dedicated cards are the way to go. But I read an article recently about how the on-board graphics in the upcoming Ivy Bridge chips are going to be miles ahead of what today's chips are capable of. So, my question is will I benefit from this CPU's awesome on-board graphics while running dedicated graphics cards? Like is it completely 'either-or', where I can either use the CPU's graphics or the 570's I have? Or does the CPUs graphics capabilities do their thing either way and the dedicated cards just add to what the CPU is doing? Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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I'm pretty sure at the moment it's either-or, so won't benefit you. From what I can gather, in the years to come the built in GPU will start to process data other than graphics, since it can handle certain types better than a CPU can, and what they are doing now is kind of the groundwork for that (which does benefit a lot of people without dedicated graphics along the way), but for us enthusiasts there is no advantage at the moment but it's cool to see the development.

I will say however, I'm a bit clueless when it comes to this, so it would be nice if someone more knowledgeable could chime in with a more solid answer smile.gif
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Obviously, dedicated cards are the way to go. But I read an article recently about how the on-board graphics in the upcoming Ivy Bridge chips are going to be miles ahead of what today's chips are capable of. So, my question is will I benefit from this CPU's awesome on-board graphics while running dedicated graphics cards? Like is it completely 'either-or', where I can either use the CPU's graphics or the 570's I have? Or does the CPUs graphics capabilities do their thing either way and the dedicated cards just add to what the CPU is doing? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

 

Running the iGPU and a dedicated card in tandem is possible already, just not with Intel. AMD's Llano supports CrossFire with the iGPU + a dedicated card, and it actually works fairly well from what I've seen. Whether Intel will ever add support for this capability remains to be seen, although to me it seems doubtful. AMD has the advantage of having created the CPU, iGPU, chipset and dedicated GPU and is able to make it happen, whereas Intel would have to work with GPUs from other vendors.

 

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Ah cool didn't know that. Does that make AMD much stronger than Intel in the laptop market? Seems that would be the sort of place this comes in really handy.
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Ah cool didn't know that. Does that make AMD much stronger than Intel in the laptop market? Seems that would be the sort of place this comes in really handy.


I used to have a Llano laptop that had the capability, and it did help somewhat in games. Unfortunately I found the CPU (A6-3400M) and its lack of L3 cache to be a bottleneck regardless. sad-smiley-002.gif

 

Trinity will hopefully improve on this.

 

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I found one of the articles that made me think of it, was in the second-last issue of MaximumPC, titled "State of the Hardware". "....Intel has made waves with the integrated graphics built into its current Sandy Bridge CPUs. The Intel HD Graphics GPU is pretty average for Intel graphics, but the fixed-funtion video block is startlingly good. Video decode and transcode is very fast- even faster than most GPU-accelerated transcode. Of course it's a fixed-function unit, so it isn't useful with non-standard codecs. But since a big part of the consumer GPU compute efforts from Nvidia and AMD focus on video encode and transcode, Sandy Bridge graphics stole a little thunder from the traditional graphics companies."

So can anyone translate this for me? Does this mean that the on-die graphics won't be very beneficial for gaming (not fixed-functions?)?
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