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How well does ATi work with Intel? Or say i wanted to do Nividia and ATI could I?
See this one was my second choice:
KINGWIN Lazer LZ-850 850W Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
So whats the difference then the 448 then the one i picked. here the link to 448:
MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

ATI/Intel/Nvidia/AMD combinations don't matter. One's a CPU and one's a GPU, and they work largely independently of one another. If you have a faster processor (regardless of make), it will be better than a slow one.

Also, a minor point: AMD (who bought ATI out a while back), dropped the "ATI" name in the last series of GPUs, so it's just (AMD) Radeon now. Not that it really matters smile.gif
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One is the 448 core version (which is almost identical to a GTX 570), and has a better cooler. The other does not. Here's a set of benchmarks to outline the difference:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/11/29/zotac-geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-cores-review/6

Look at the differences between the 560 Ti -> 448 core -> 570?
(Also, the 69xx series doesn't do too well in BF3, but you can see where they score too)

(A better benchmark for the 69xx series would be this: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/11/29/zotac-geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-cores-review/5 )


Hope that helps smile.gif
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See I dont mind getting the MSI 560GTX Ti 448 but won't the 2GB of RAM on the other MSI 560GTX Ti Twin Frozr 2 better?

One I want:
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

The one I don't mind getting if its gonna do better:
MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

So which would you buy If you had my build and was upgrading from a XFX 9800GT?
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See I dont mind getting the MSI 560GTX Ti 448 but won't the 2GB of RAM on the other MSI 560GTX Ti Twin Frozr 2 better?
One I want:
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
The one I don't mind getting if its gonna do better:
MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
So which would you buy If you had my build and was upgrading from a XFX 9800GT?

Video RAM only seriously affects performance in one of two situations:

You're using a graphically intensive game, with higher than standard texture sizes, and/or using a game on something equivalent to "Ultra" at high resolutions (1080p and upwards).
(This means lots of anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering with high-resolution textures at high numbers of pixels. These together use up the most vRAM)

Or:

You're playing across multi-monitors.

If you don't mind dropping the AA/AF by a notch or two in 1-2 games that might come out in the next few years while playing at 1080p, then there is no downside to having 1GB of vRAM. In fact, having 1.25GB, you likely won't even have to do that for the forseeable future. 2GB is only really useful when looking at 2560x1440 (or greater) resolutions.

The 448 core is about 20% faster than the non-448 core.


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So I would buy the 448 core if I was looking at 1080p gaming, and the 2GB model if I was looking at higher resolutions. Alternately, if price became a problem for the more expensive 448 core.
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I love the help, Wont the 2GB one though over clock to match the 448?
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I love the help, Wont the 2GB one though over clock to match the 448?

It might get near it, but the 448 core will clock higher when you've overclocked both. The difference post-overclock will be similar to the difference pre-overclock, I believe.
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