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This chaps my butt. Show me any other industry outside of software, that restricts people from selling an item they bought, to someone else.
Maybe something like govt. contracts and other things outside of a normal consumer grasp.
Anyway, IF MS is even considering the idea, they'll soon revise it, as this story is on the front page of the Huffington Post, which means it'll be on a lot of other sites soon enough.
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This chaps my butt. Show me any other industry outside of software, that restricts people from selling an item they bought, to someone else.
Maybe something like govt. contracts and other things outside of a normal consumer grasp.
Anyway, IF MS is even considering the idea, they'll soon revise it, as this story is on the front page of the Huffington Post, which means it'll be on a lot of other sites soon enough.

to be fair, *puts on flame suit* it's a lot harder to copy a lot of other products. For example, you can just pirate an LCD TV or a car or a washing machine. It's much easier to copy/pirate software than most other wares on the market. I don't like it any more than you do, I'm just saying there is a difference in comparing software to most other physical wares...
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to be fair, *puts on flame suit* it's a lot harder to copy a lot of other products. For example, you can just pirate an LCD TV or a car or a washing machine. It's much easier to copy/pirate software than most other wares on the market. I don't like it any more than you do, I'm just saying there is a difference in comparing software to most other physical wares...

The only real annoyance I have is with Steam and the like. There is no reason why I couldn't sell off a Steam game to some one...or trade or even gift. All they would need to is block it on my account. I suppose this would let some pirates get the game, crack it, and trade off the original and still have it, but all Steam would need to do is charge a small transaction fee for the transfers and they would still get a piece and it isn't like it would happen every time. Perhaps limit the number of transaction an account can do per month?

Same goes for any digital download service.

Well, and I guess I don't under stand why places like Game Stop won't deal in used PC games or accept returns on open games. I could take home any console game disk, copy it and return it with no questions asked, but with PC games they assume you copied or already used the CD key so you are stuck with it...even on games with out a registration. It has been this way for years...
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post #34 of 54
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to be fair, *puts on flame suit* it's a lot harder to copy a lot of other products. For example, you can just pirate an LCD TV or a car or a washing machine. It's much easier to copy/pirate software than most other wares on the market. I don't like it any more than you do, I'm just saying there is a difference in comparing software to most other physical wares...

Agreed.

On the other hand... people proven 2 things to be true:

1) They're willing to pay for quality
2) People are willing to pay for convince

If you look at games from a reputable company or a good franchise their numbers tend to be stellar. If developers would stop throwing together poorly written crap or games riddled with DRM issues piracy would greatly decrease. The Witcher 2 was DRM free and still sold nearly a million copies in the first 3 months. For a PC-only RPG that's quite impressive. Keep in mind they didn't air a single commercial or ad here in the US.
    
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The only real annoyance I have is with Steam and the like. There is no reason why I couldn't sell off a Steam game to some one...or trade or even gift. All they would need to is block it on my account. I suppose this would let some pirates get the game, crack it, and trade off the original and still have it, but all Steam would need to do is charge a small transaction fee for the transfers and they would still get a piece and it isn't like it would happen every time.

I think steam is a fair tradeoff. Granted, you're stuck with the games forever but you can't buy games for 20%-75% off AND be able to trade them. That would kill the industry.
    
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I think steam is a fair tradeoff. Granted, you're stuck with the games forever but you can't buy games for 20%-75% off AND be able to trade them. That would kill the industry.

Yeah...that is why it is just an annoyance. Perhaps if the purchase price was recorded and all trades had to be near equal values? but nothing would be wrong with some one trading three cheap games for one expensive game and limits on transactions would stop abuse of this unless people were managing a dozen Steam accounts.

I know it is just a dream since Steam is doing just fine the way it is. They would never change something that is working for them.
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post #37 of 54
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I doubt they will alienate the retailers by taking the used gaming market out of the equation. Retailers like Gamestop will be pissed.
And I'm not impressed with the specs if its gonna use a 6670 tier GPU.


 

What?

 

Gamestop is who they are trying to prevent from re-selling their software. (Making mad profits, instead of the game companies) 

 

So, if you download a game off Xbox live (slightly cheaper), then how do u sell it back to gamestop, so they can re-sell it again? You can't, therefore Game Gompanies make more profits. 

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No more used games? How many companies are going to die off because of this lol.
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Call me old fashioned, but I prefer a physical copy that I can buy used, rent, or loan to a friend. If they take that from me I will figure out a way to do it via other means. And I will also buy way less games. If I buy a new system, first thing I'm gonna do is jail break it so I can play backups.

I also prefer physical copies, especially special editions but expect the part of giving the games to friend. I activate the game on seam and then make it a collection item. Doubt my friends could use it anyhow. But yea i am talking PCs and you probably consoles smile.gif)
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No more used games? How many companies are going to die off because of this lol.

actually I can't come up with many. Doesn't make it right or nice, but overall there aren't that many companies that specialize in the buying and selling of used games. The other question is how will the other companies react to this? Will Sony and Ninetendo institute the same thing or can you still swap games between owners on those consoles?
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