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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127652

I think the prices of gpu's have just gotten out of hand. I saw this happen with the 5000 cards and thought the same thing. Is this all about paying for the extra ram? 600.00 is just a wad of green to spend on a gpu, and these are just reference with a factory oc on them, nothing special. What is going to happen when the likes of MSI, GIGABYTE, and all the rest start coming out with their high end cards? Are we looking @ 700.00 for them?? Where does it end?
Now wait a sec...... the Green team has still to bring their new cards to market and they are always more than the Red. If that is the case my reasoning would lead me to believe that we can all be looking @ 700.00+ cards from them. Now the Red counters with something that beats them..... Will they justify the price being abit faster the the other rolleyes.gif with abit more expensive? . I fear we are heading down a path that the average consumer cant follow.
I love new tech, cant get enough of it really, but where is the end? When the Mars cards came out and everybody was like 1000.00 no way.
Now we are fast reaching that level as the Norm. The dual gpu from the Red side will be out soon and that scares me a little. The 6990 is still 700.00+ and if we think about it a little I can reason that the 7990 is going to cost everybit of 850.00+ and the trend continues higher.
I am just a concerned consumer and just voicing my thoughts on all this and would love to hear other thoughts as well.
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post #2 of 69
Na AMD is just trying to get what they can.
I think supply and demand are playing more into this then production costs of the cards.
The GTX 580 is still $500+ from most suppliers. The 7970 is faster than the 580, so it makes since to see its' price higher. There might also be a low availability which makes the card high.

Once Nvidia comes out with a competitor card and supply ramps up costs will come down again.

Buying first release bleeding edge tech is always going to be expensive.
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Yeah I can't wait to see the massive price gouging on the new dual GPUs.2cents.gif
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I.dont see a problem.. look at 3gb 580 prices since they have been out then look at the performance of these 7970's.. seems spot on to me.
    
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I.dont see a problem.. look at 3gb 580 prices since they have been out then look at the performance of these 7970's.. seems spot on to me.

I am more concerned about the trend if you look at the 4800, 5800, 6900 to the 7900.
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You can't judge pricing by the price gauging at launch.

When the 5850/5870 came out, we were seeing price increases of $50-$100 over MSRP, and since those were much cheaper cards, it was an even larger % increase.

Oddly enough, ppl who buy launch day/night (when prices are MSRP) aren't gouged. But, current pricing on the 7970's is hardly unusual.

What may be troublesome is that AMD seems to have stopped playing the competitive pricing game with Nvidia. Don't really blame them since Nvidia was selling GTX 580's well despite them being stupidly overpriced (30% more than a GTX 570 for 10%-15% more performance). If you think about it, even if AMD set MSRP for the 7970 as $450, they'd still be out of stock, but they'd have made a ton less money.

AMD tried the competitive price game with NVIDIA for several generations, NVIDIA didn't lose significant sales and still sold overpriced cards thanks to the Halo effect. As a result, AMD probably decided to forget that and just price according to the market.
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I feel like prices from amd are in line with performance and have been always. Look at the 6970 price compared to the 580 or when the 5xxx cards were top dog they were priced to reflect that.
    
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That card is also factory overclocked by 85MHz Core though, but that doesn't justify 600$.. Wow.
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That's just a factory overclocked rip-off from MSI. The real ref cards are 549.99. It doesn't worry me too much because I remember paying 500+ for an Nvidia 8800gtx 3 years ago! The price will come down; you just have to wait for Nvidia to launch their counter attack.
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That card is also factory overclocked by 85MHz Core though, but that doesn't justify 600$.. Wow.

Think about when they release a Lightning version of it.
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