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Only thing that worries me is the VRMs being on the cpu chip, of course wouldnt having them close to the cpu make it more efficient as the trace lines wouldnt have to be as long lowering resistance. So would in turn have the ability to have finer tuning of the voltage at the same time?

While also at the same time I really dont know if I like the idea since those bad boys will need better cooling which would make WC alot more attractive for overclocking considering the extra heat from doing so.
 
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I can't see needing to upgrade my 2500k at least until broadwell.
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This is my next processor. Honestly though was hoping for more then 4 cores at the same 2500k price point.
    
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Because intel is pissed off.they dont like to be at the loosing end.and sadly as great as their cpu are their gpu suck in their apu.arm isnt helping intel mood get better.and to make mather worst .no mather what intel try they are tbe amd of the ultra mobile world.amd apu is putting pressure on intel.so nobody know what intel is cooking up.but their next apu s gpu will be insanelly pwerfull
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This is my next processor. Honestly though was hoping for more then 4 cores at the same 2500k price point.

Not with Haswell you won't get that. IPC + IGP is what Intel's focusing on with regards to the mainstream chips going forward. If you want more cores, the 3930K and its successors are what you want.
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Not with Haswell you won't get that. IPC + IGP is what Intel's focusing on with regards to the mainstream chips going forward. If you want more cores, the 3930K and its successors are what you want.

Yeah right now you are right but in two years when this releases I'm hoping mainstream/enthusiast is more then a quadcore. Not even neccesarily because I need it, just seems logical to me. Quads have been standard for quite a while now and AMD already has an 8 core out.
    
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Yeah right now you are right but in two years when this releases I'm hoping mainstream/enthusiast is more then a quadcore. Not even neccesarily because I need it, just seems logical to me. Quads have been standard for quite a while now and AMD already has an 8 core out.

And AMD's 8 core gets SLAUGHTERED by Intel's 4C offerings -- even in multithreaded workloads!
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And AMD's 8 core gets SLAUGHTERED by Intel's 4C offerings -- even in multithreaded workloads!

Yes I'm well aware you are missing the point. This chip is not due for at l east a year and a half. A year and a half from now 4 cores is going to seem pretty slim especially if AMD continues to push forward with their multicore design. Although the software is not ready for BD every day things get more and more multi-threaded.
    
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Yeah right now you are right but in two years when this releases I'm hoping mainstream/enthusiast is more then a quadcore. Not even neccesarily because I need it, just seems logical to me. Quads have been standard for quite a while now and AMD already has an 8 core out.

I used to have the same want but really, what does it matter if Intel continues to increase IPC?
Increasing IPC is also generally more efficient when it comes to space and power consumption compared to adding cores.
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And AMD's 8 core gets SLAUGHTERED by Intel's 4C offerings -- even in multithreaded workloads!

Slaughtered in all caps meaning it'd have no hope of coming even close, right? In the real world, and not the generalisation based off some graphs world, BD is actually quite close or even faster than a 2600k in multi-threaded workloads.

Proof:
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Now, I'll be the first to say that the FX-8150 isn't a good chip unless you have a very specific workload like I do, but to say it's SLAUGHTERED by a 2500k or 2600k in multi-threaded workloads? Yeah, no. That's just outright ignorance/fanboyism/misinformation. Take your pick.
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I used to have the same want but really, what does it matter if Intel continues to increase IPC?
Increasing IPC is also generally more efficient when it comes to space and power consumption compared to adding cores.

Not necessarily. It depends on what methods you use and what workload you have, AMDs modules method more than makes up for Bulldozers bad IPC in some tasks. IPC isn't a general thing to say, like clock speed. Some workloads get a higher IPC than others on the same CPU, cores can factor into the account as well. There's way too many variables.
    
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